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<0> now ms is the only big player that doesnt ;)
<1> let's hope it stays that way
<1> "New, eclipse Vista, using java to run .net, on top of directx 10 for the most stunning segfaults you've ever seen!"
<2> ok errors on, i included the errors in the bin
<2> http://pastebin.ca/58107
<3> what's eclipse?
<2> java ide
<1> www.hai2u.com?about=eclipse
<3> ew
<3> PHP IDE
<3> yeah, i've heard about it
<3> is it any good?
<1> I think it ****s mad cox
<4> I don't like many IDEs. Best I've used are MS and Eclipse
<5> I think it ****s, too
<1> cai, would you pick jEdit over eclipse?
<5> Yes
<1> good enough for me
<3> wait, are we talking about PHPEclipse here?
<3> or just "Eclipse"?
<1> Eclipse*
<1> it's all the same ****
<1> they add the language plugin and suddenly it's OMFGEClipse
<6> i like notepad ( * throws it into the mix )
<2> blue jay isnt too bad
<1> I like dead babies ( * throws some at DevZer0 )
<6> heheh
<5> Notepad is decent, but an editor needs syntax hilighting.
<3> what's the discussion between MS and Eclipse?
<1> yeah
<1> java
<3> seems to me that Eclipse runs on windows
<1> and other language support
<1> yeah it does
<1> it runs on linux too
<1> and mac and whatever
<6> the notepad i have has syntax highlighting :-)
<1> ms tools run on win only
<1> DevZer0, oh yeah? crayola?
<2> eclipse is ibm isnt it?
<6> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/22/mobi_domain/
<5> DevZer0: then it's not "notepad" (which'd be the MS version)
<6> opps wrong link
<6> http://www.atechgroup.net
<7> hrm :/
<6> well its caleld *Prefessional* Notepad :-)
<6> uses the same icon as notepad though
<2> http://pastebin.ca/58107 << anyone?
<7> I'm stuck on my spider :(
<1> squish it dwism
<4> MS tools are nice if you're programming for Windows
<3> I like zend studio
<6> exacube: yes i use Zend IDE my self
<1> never used it
<4> For anything else I'd use Eclipse (if I absolutely need IDE features) or Vim/aterm if not.
<4> I refuse to pay for an IDE.
<5> rxvt-unicode ftw
<6> my company paid for it
<6> LOL
<6> i bought licenses for all my coders
<6> and the company paid for it
<4> cai: I like aterm or eterm, never tried rxvt
<6> so why not :-)
<3> Zend IDE is good
<5> rxvt has unsurp***ed unicode handling
<4> Although I'm tying this on Gnome-Terminal because on my work computer I'm lazy as fux
<5> It is awesome.
<6> exacube: it has its pros and cons
<8> i use dreamwaver lol
<7> dravine: just trying to figure out how to do this ellagantly without the use of simplexml
<6> cons, not very stable on windwos,
<3> cons?
<5> Should ban toast for saying that
<3> why isn't it stable on windows?
<2> mmm toast
<8> :p
<3> lol
<5> lol
<4> My boss uses Dreamweaver to edit files directly on the production site
<6> cons, takes a while to type hint cl*** member object is another cl*** object
<7> since obviously, bot all pages are structured the same way :)
<1> hehe
<4> I always tell him that if he ****s something up he can learn to fix it himself
<6> kandea: oh my god
<1> hahaha
<1> fag
<6> thats bad
<6> i only use vim
<8> die
<4> Damn straight it's bad!
<4> I told him to ****ing learn to use a real text editor!
<6> to edit production files which i do very rarly only for urgnet bug fix
<3> DevZer0: that sentence didn't make sense
<8> i use EnginSite
<6> exacube, which sentence
<7> kaneda: like pico/nano ? :D
<4> I *even* got him TortoiseSVN and showed him how to check out and update and commit to the repo.
<4> ****er still doesn't.
<3> <6> cons, takes a while to type hint cl*** member object is another cl*** object
<3> you need punctuations
<4> DWism: both better than Dreamweaver!
<7> hehe
<7> though some days i could go for some good old fashioned syntax highlighting :/
<9> dreamweaver 8...is dope.
<1> yeah
<4> He complains because if he drags an image onto a page in Dreamweaver, then save is in the local copy and commits, it comes up as <img src="file:///path/blah/x.jpg>
<1> the kind you kill insects with
<6> cron, it takes a while to type hint to the zend IDE so it knows that a cl*** member is actually another cl*** object. so it can give you an auto-fill list of that other cl*** members
<4> Dumb bastard.
<3> i like any IDE with syntax highlighting, auto-indent, and auto-complete
<3> that's all i want
<4> exacube: you want vim.
<1> I hate auto stuff
<6> exacube: then you only need is an editor
<1> auto-complete anyway
<6> IDE is more than that
<4> My theory is that everyone in the world wants to code in Vim, they just don't know how to do it.
<1> auto indent is titties
<9> vim pshhhh.
<8> i like the +/- to hide functions etc
<8> and highlights..
<1> vim does that
<4> toast: vim does these things
<6> yes vim and collapse and expand
<4> vim will do them automatically. Just put the right comments around your functions and bam: folded.
<1> while(list($stuffvimdoes)){}
<7> ugh, i hate brace collapsing
<6> i realzied that while going through the php source code
<9> I'll save you a ton of time and just tell you to get dreamweaver 8.
<6> hehe
<4> In fact, Vim will autoindent files that have been saved without indents if the right comments exist
<9> ok auto indent that is dope...what kind of comments?
<9> Because sometimes I have to look at peoples crappy code. And auto indent would be nice.
<1> hehe
<1> jedit has a tidy plugin
<6> ah
<8> jedit is cool
<9> I used jedit once and it was really sluggish.
<9> I need lightening speed.
<4> you can run tidy through vim though, right?
<4> ha. netsplit ftw!
<6> our V.P of technology suggested that all code should be done in phython just because phtyon enforced identing
<6> hehe
<6> i think that was ridiculus and i proested against it
<4> Did you tell him that the 'tab' key also enforces indenting?
<10> $_REQUEST is global, and available inside functions ?
<4> If you hit it when you want indenting, it will automatically do it.
<4> e-head: yes, it's in the global scope always.
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