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<0> good one sully
<1> Are these attec joists or load baring / floor baring?
<2> hangers are legal for that =
<2> ?
<3> run a joist perpendicular to the one you cut, like a T
<2> attic
<1> ah, then just do this irzyxel, http://www.doityourself.com/stry/atticladderjoist
<3> a joist or a truss?
<2> that only goes up to cutting, heh
<2> where is step 6
<1> http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=howTo&p=Improve/InstallAtticStairs.html
<1> That shows how to re-frame.
<1> And use temp support in the meantime.
<2> heh
<2> actually the hole is already there
<2> and they have a new joist in there, but ...
<1> Oh, so your lookin to close it?
<2> the original ones are like 8x8, the used to quench is 2x2
<1> Ah.
<2> it held 60 years, but oh well ...
<2> wanna make it a bit smaller to install a new attic ladder
<2> and im scared of the 2x2 ;)
<1> Gotcha.
<1> Well I"m not sure which way is required by code, but I'd imagine you just move the headers.
<2> heh
<2> loews ones i wouldnt even call joists ;)
<2> yeah, im just wondering how to do it
<2> like lowes with long screws through the joist
<2> or better with hangers
<1> Well just like a closet.
<4> how's it going guys? :)
<1> Ya, I imagine you could just use hangers being that it wont really be load baring and the headers are already there.
<1> Though hangers are pretty ****ing strong anyway.
<1> I guess it all depends on code.
<2> well, it has to carry that one joist which was cut
<1> Isn't there a header there already?
<1> Like isn't the current opening already all framed out?
<2> yeah, but only 2x2
<1> Ah, gotcha.
<2> supporting 8x8 joists ;/
<1> Ahhh.
<1> Wow, those are huge.
<2> german fachwerk ;)
<2> 5x6 is typical
<1> Heh, I wouldn't know where to begin with somthing that big.
<1> When I remodeled my bathroom I just had a guy come in and tell me what I had to do.
<1> I just paid him basically to consult and I did all the work, then hed come back and inspect.
<1> Maybe you could find someone around you to do somthing like that.
<2> http://image.historisches-fachwerk.com/upload/image/I1201_2005725223158.jpg
<2> typical size
<1> Ah, like a barn ;)
<1> Huge.
<2> any house
<2> but 200 years old
<1> Ya.
<1> Those have got to be tricky to work with.
<2> carried like 22 tons of dirt out so far
<5> 11 hour power cut, i live in the third ****ing world
<0> lol
<0> try reading a book next time
<5> in the dark
<3> holy crap those are some real joists there
<0> it's called a caddle man
<0> oh ya those are like in my barn
<5> you tried reading by candel ligh its ****ing dim
<0> get 2 of them
<4> Eldritch: new zeland?
<0> god damn
<0> stop whining
<2> my walls are thinner
<2> only 5x5 ;)
<5> DWism yup
<4> Eldritch: heh, i was mid-conversation with a client when that happened... lol
<2> http://geekworx.org/sanierung/step3/img_0629.jpg
<2> http://geekworx.org/sanierung/step3/img_0696.jpg
<4> just like 'oh, shoot, where'd they go?'
<5> ****ing third world infrastrucutre
<5> they have a better power grid in bagdad
<2> im fixing a 200 year old house with clay, STFU
<4> haha
<4> Eldritch: yeah, well, the US isn't much better, remember '03?
<4> someone fliped a wrong switch in canada and our power goes out. lol.
<5> i try not to remember yesterday
<4> forced to live off line
<4> what a pitty. :D
<6> Question: Who knows of a USEFUL resource for making odbc connections using php's pdo_odbc module??
<2> forced to eat all of moms frozen dinners
<4> i know it ****s though... :)
<0> we didn't flip **** DWism
<0> your power plants over loaded our lines
<7> word
<0> sent the power the wrong way
<7> Ohio was the culprit
<0> idiots
<4> pit: LOL :D
<7> Was cool, missed a day and a half of work.
<4> I know, I was just trying to start **** :D
<0> hehehe
<4> heh
<0> I liked it too
<4> i was so retarded
<4> i go
<7> Anyone else have m***ive amounts of *** those two days?
<7> There was like nothing else to do.
<0> lol
<4> 'oh, power's out, i better get to work, we're going to be busy as ****'
<6> Question: Who knows of a USEFUL resource for making odbc connections using php's pdo_odbc module??
<0> no but I learnt how to do a plug
<4> WORK DIDN'T HAVE ANY POWER! :D
<0> =/
<4> I felt really stupid at that point
<7> Wish I could help icenyne, but no idea
<4> and went home and stared at the wall
<4> since there wasn't anything else to do
<0> I worked like a jew
<8> -scan
<0> during those 2 days
<8> Ooops
<0> damn
<4> i didn't work at all... heh
<6> actually i just finally made a connection to the odbc driver! oh my, that only took 3 days :p
<0> I worked on the farm
<0> we had to wire the generator to the house
<7> I lit candles and stayed in the with g/f.
<0> :D
<0> damn
<7> dyslexia.
<0> I should of joined in sully
<4> speaking of women... i have to go in 30 minutes... heh
<7> She was into that too.
<0> thanks dwork
<8> My pleasure.
<4> it's so weird... the chick i'm dating isn't like... computer savvy at all.
<4> I never thought i'd be able to deal with someone like that
<0> is she good in bed?
<0> that's what matters
<5> print out the internet for her to read.
<7> lol
<4> heh
<0> Is she hot DWism?
<5> we want photos, medical reports, and a cv
<9> internal photos.
<10> creditcard numbers.
<5> pap smear test results
<5> DNA
<0> used pregnancy test
<4> LOL
<4> she's very beautiful. :)
<9> used tampon
<0> like cai's mom?
<0> or better?
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