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<0> you`re 2 cool 4 us dear Ophiocus
<0> i use my fingers
<1> woa, over my head there
<2> man i still cant get this regex to work, but it should be simple :/
<0> what kind of "head"? :)
<3> SWEET! it's working!! :D Muhuhahahah!!! :D
<3> only took replacing the ajax toolkit. :/
<4> DWism: AJAX toolkit?
<4> You don't write it by hand?
<3> kaneda: i'm more interested in getting projects up and running than buolding a framework at the moment
<4> I can see that being important, yeah.
<3> and if there's something i can drop in and have my stupid ajax stuff just work, then that's what i'll do
<3> aardvark works really well provided you don't need to move a lot of data or several pieces of small data
<3> which this current part needed
<3> heh
<3> i'll bet i could even simplify this now
<3> heh
<3> kaneda: what i'm doing, is making a CMS type deal, with internal data structures that you can tie to pages/whatnot
<5> under what windows user name does php read and write to files with so i know who to set security privileges for? everyone seems a little too vulnerable
<3> so in the page editor, i'm making a thing to pop up all those data points so you know what to reference to get what value
<4> Dwism: sounds interesting. How does it work?
<3> kaneda: kinda hard to describe... I have data points defined in the db, then when i go to page edit, i can set the type of page, and then when i go to bindings, those types of bindings will show up, i bind them, then i can go to the full page editor, hit show bindings, it pulls the ***igned bindings, formats them into the template variables available, and displays them on the side of the screen with one-click insertion :D
<4> Can I see it in action? Sounds sickeningly interesting!
<6> gah, ****ing windows
<6> apache seems to be ignoring my .htaccess
<3> kaneda: once we have it in place i'll be making a 'safe' version to show off
<3> but right now it's tied in to all our client data and such
<6> allowoverride is set to none on winblows, pff
<4> Dwism: Seriously, seriously want to see that when a clean version is available.
<4> I've been throwing around some ideas and that sounds similar to one of them.
<3> kaneda: i'll have fun showing it off.. i's going to be our new administration system... central management of business operations, at least as far as our website goes currently... change the data point... all the pages, ads... everything... updates accordingly
<4> Dwism: ****in a' right.
<4> I'm excited.
<3> kaneda: i'm into some really fun stuff lately... between this and my todo project
<4> What's the todo?
<7> _TaSm, you around?
<3> i'm working on building a form of... i guess... display model of sorts... for making, essiencially, javascript fat-clients for realtime multi-user applications
<3> I already have the backend running and such
<3> i just need to work on the tools to bring it to the UI
<3> small sample of that is http://devel.webonce.com/todo/
<3> only config/test areas work
<3> since i need the UI code to do the todo side right :D
<8> Man that looks like ***
<3> yes, yes it does
<3> but as i said, UI code isn't even started really
<3> it's just hacked up to see if the objects work :D
<8> You should hire me to make it look like.. not ***.
<3> oh, trust me, i can make it not look like ***, i just didn't want to spend that kind of time on it until I have the interface model
<4> ...interesting.
<8> I saw that webonce interface
<4> SHould be much more interesting once it does something useful. Or pretty.
<3> kaneda: if you sit and watch, say, 'categories' while i add one, in a few seconds you will see the new category show up :D
<3> right now it just replaces the whole thing with .innerHTML, which is unacceptible for the final incantation, so... that's what i'm working on :)
<3> cai: http://weboncecss.webonce.net is the new site the CDS is being built for. :)
<7> hey cai
<4> Dwism: what will you replace it with?
<7> calisse
<7> I thought you were deda
<7> *dead
<3> kaneda: not sure... but items need to be reorganized/appended, not completely replaced. Essencially, i don't want to touch anything i don't have to, so if someone re-orders the categories, it should simply re-order the html elements, and not actually rebuild the list.
<3> that make sense?
<7> hey DWism can I ask a question about innerHtml?
<3> pit: sure
<4> yeah
<7> how can you update a innerHtml
<7> i mean instead of changing the whole thing
<7> I know you can do firstChild
<7> and lastChild
<4> Don't use InnerHTML, use the DOM?
<7> hmmm
<7> is dom accesible on all browsers?
<7> or just IE?
<3> kaneda: yeah... that's what i'm working on ... figuring out how to use the dom in an effective cross-platform manor... and none of the toolkits that are free, that i have seen, allow nice access to it in an abstracted manor, so i think i'm going to have to build bits of it myself
<3> all
<3> but they have different methods and such sometimes
<7> ahh fun
<3> which is why i've become a big fan of third party libraries :D
<3> let someone ELSE figure it out
<3> i'll just exploit it for my own purposes
<3> :D
<7> what libraries are that?
<3> Mochi does most of what I need... I just need to figure out how to interchange inner elements...
<3> I'm using... what... Mochi, cPaint, a little Aardvark until I convert it all to cPaint now... uhm... and some effects/D* Dlibrary, i forget the name
<7> whoaaa I guess I'll look into that
<7> thanks
<3> kaneda: in the demo you saw, the list elements are all drag-drop sortable, if you click on the text a textbox shows up, C for cancel, U for update... if you click twice on the Cats button you'll see disabled cats, three times, you'lll see the search cats list...
<3> kaneda: those things might not be totally user-intuative, but they're simple and quick to pick up on, and also allow me to put more functionality in without compromising realestate
<3> eventually there will be up/down buttons for sorting too, because not everyone can use a mouse :D
<0> anybody, can ya tell me how to shut down my fcking mouse?
<9> shut down your mouse?
<9> unplug it?
<10> cut its tale
<11> oh brother -_-;
<10> where art thou
<11> good movie.
<11> o/~ I~ am a man / of constant sorrow~~
<11> wishes for fishes
<10> never seen it
<12> al
<11> you should.
<10> nope
<11> it's a modern retelling of Homer's Oddyssee.
<11> which I probably spelled wrong
<10> ill stick to the origonal
<11> whatever works.
<10> Odyssey
<10> cool lot of death in the end
<10> try to seduce my wife will ya, I kill you all!
<11> ......
<13> I'll seduce everyone in here biatch
<13> I just stole a ****ing viao
<13> a japanese model picture book
<3> sweet, one-click insertion works now
<13> http://annaka-net.com/PCG-C1VRXK/PCG-C1VRXK-1000.JPG
<13> like that one
<3> even my business partner will be able to make pages :D
<13> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6848070939&ssPageName=Action:MPS
<13> that's the bastard
<3> ugh, i have to go to the bank
<11> VAIOs are great... FOR ME TO POOP ON!
<13> it's to replace my PDA
<11> I had a VAIO a few years ago... and then I found out how ****ty Sony is about service
<13> I don't care about the service
<13> I'll fix it myself
<11> a laptop? yeah right.
<13> besides, it's a used machine anyway
<13> yeah, fixed a gateway last week
<13> a guy I work with rebuilds toshiba librettos weekly
<13> it might shock you, but some people do get training to do that sort of thing
<11> Toshibas are the only laptops worse than Sony... oh no wait, there's always Acers.
<11> and $NONAME_CLONE_VENDOR
<13> I'm not worried about it
<13> I just want something compact with a web browser and minicom on it
<13> so that when I'm in tiny *** comms closets diagnosing kit and configuring ****, I don't have my huge dell inspiron 9300 all up in my way
<11> hm...well in that case
<13> all that thing is going to do is run a stripped down ubuntu with icewm and a few launchers
<13> _maybe_ evolution
<11> how big a disk?
<13> because I can sync it with multisync
<13> 40G
<13> so it'll have some tunes on it too
<11> hm, not too bad for something so small
<13> that price was a steal
<13> I got outbid on a ****ty one for $485
<13> CPU: Crusoe 667MHZ
<13> Memory: 128MB on board memory + 128MB Added
<13> HDD: upgraded to 40GB
<13> Graphic Card:ATI Rage Mobility 8MB video Memory
<13> Monitor size:8.9 inch, 1024X480 ultra wide, 1024X768
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