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<kaneda_> Papa: it's late, but I use acronym, abbr, and cite all the damn time.
<kaneda_> Or, all the damn time I'm using acronyms, abbreviations, or citations
<the_ru> I haven't quite understood the difference between q and cite
<DEWEZ> dravine
<DEWEZ> you around?
<dravine> yeah
<DEWEZ> heh
<kaneda_> q is deprecated, no? It's been a while since I've checked.
<DEWEZ> http://www.hidebehind.com/show2.php?iid=CD655DB2.gif
<dravine> finally got this horrid old email script working
<DEWEZ> it calls.. http://www.hidebehind.com/showimage2.php?iid=CD655DB2.gif
<dravine> hahaha
<DEWEZ> proper headers and everything
<the_ru> kaneda_: it validates at W3C for me
<DEWEZ> but.. form viewing the source, people are just linking to http://www.hidebehind.com/showimage2.php?iid=CD655DB2.gif
<DEWEZ> since there is no ad.
<DEWEZ> how would you stop them?
<kaneda_> the_ru: damn, it is valid. okay, scratch that.
<rdw> lol @ that gif
<DEWEZ> heh
<dravine> DEWEZ, check the referrer_url in showimage2.php
<the_ru> kaneda_: although it could be valid, but its further use discouraged, I guess
<dravine> and if it's not your site with the ad, redirect them to the spot with the add
<kaneda_> ru: it isn't. It's valid.
<dravine> if($_SERVER['REFERRER_URL']!= $yoursite){header('Location: '.$yoursite.$iid);}
<the_ru> kaneda_: ok. then, however, the question remains; what's the difference?
<kaneda_> I use <q> for short quotations (like a quote from a movie) and I use <cite> when I'm citing books, or writing names of books or movies or such. (I liked <cite>Phantom of the Opera</cite>)
<DEWEZ> wtf, i tried that
<DEWEZ> oh.. i used HTTP_REFERER
<the_ru> I use q for quotes, then cite for names
<kaneda_> ru: that's how I understand it
<the_ru> including people names
<kaneda_> I wouldn't use it for people's names
<DEWEZ> does REFERRER_URL exist?
<kaneda_> But names of magazines, or movies, or books or whatever. Created works.
<DEWEZ> isn't it HTTP_REFERER
<dravine> print_r($_SERVER)
<dravine> I'm probably wrong on the exact name of it
<the_ru> kaneda_: how do you think I should write names then? just as text?
<kaneda_> ru: yeah.
<kaneda_> Nothing special about people's names.
<NEXUS`> small question: when I done example mssql_result($rs, 0, "TexteAccueil1");
<NEXUS`> It me return my text but the problem, it does not give me the whole text. Just a party (255 characters) when my field minimum 1000 characters
<kaneda_> Unless you wanna make them look different, then wrap them in a <span> with a cl***.
<kaneda_> NEXUS`: IIRC there's a problem with MSSQL and Varchar fields being truncated at 255 chars regardless of the length of the field.
<the_ru> hm, ok
<kaneda_> I don't remember more than that though, and I may be remembering incorrectly
<Eldritch> correct, you need to convert them to test
<Eldritch> text
<Tamahome> meh, another job offer fell through :(
<the_ru> kaneda_: however, "The usage of BLOCKQUOTE to indent text is deprecated in favor of style sheets."
<DEWEZ> http://www.hidebehind.com/show.php?iid=3C74A4D8.jpg
<DEWEZ> can you see that?
<kaneda_> ru: true. But the XHTML1.0 spec still says it's not deprecated. And even if it were, you could use <p cl***="quotation"> or whatever.
<NEXUS`> kaneda_ .. my DB is SQL Server not MySQL
<NEXUS`> is not possible more 255 carac. or mssql
<NEXUS`> ?
<kaneda_> NEXUS`: which is why I said MSSQL.
<the_ru> kaneda_: yes, I ***ume that's the direction "they" want us to go
<kaneda_> ru: damn the man. Code to HTML2 standards. Go go gadget-bad-markup.
<NEXUS`> k
<irzyxel> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/
<NEXUS`> kaneda_ there is you a means with MSSQL for I be able when meme to have the return of + of 255 caracteres
<_TaSm> "The usage of BLOCKQUOTE to indent text is deprecated in favor of style sheets."
<_TaSm> BUT blockquotes ARN"T deprecated.
<_TaSm> They say just use it when quoting, not as design.
<kaneda_> Makes sense, _TaSm
<kaneda_> That's what I would have ***umed, anyway.
<_TaSm> Wherd.
<Fernando> yow, if i implement ajax and set session vars inside the script called by ajax, can i retrieve those variables from the main script calling them?
<kaneda_> NEXUS`: I'm not certain. Convert to a text field? THis is the limit of my knowledge.
<_TaSm> Prob is that designers have been using HTML wrong for so long, and with CSS, the W3 is really stressing that you use the correct symantec markup.
<_TaSm> Kinda like <b> vs <strong>
<kaneda_> Fernando: I would imagine so, if you serialize()'d em, and put them in the query string? Maybe?
<_TaSm> <b> should make text bold, <strong> should be used to make test "strong".
<Fernando> nice
<DEWEZ> dravine, i have this guy on firefox 1.5 PC who can't see the image. do certain browsers not sent the REFERER?
<kaneda_> _TaSm: I'm totally with the W3C on that one. I'm big on semantic markup.
<_TaSm> Wherd.
<the_ru> _TaSm: ah, guess I didn't read that line carefully enough
<_TaSm> Well up until the browsers semisupported CSS, it wasn't really possilbe to do nice layout w/o tables, etc.
<kaneda_> Agreed. But now that those days are past us, we really should take advantage of semantic markup and CSS-based layouts.
<kaneda_> Table layouts are like old Soviet technology. Just because it's still workable doesn't mean it's a good idea, there, Lenin.
<_TaSm> <i> carries no semantic meaning beyond "make this italicized"; if
<_TaSm> italics are not available, there is no fallback rendering that I'm aware of
<_TaSm> <em> means emphasized text; certain browsers render emphasized text in
<_TaSm> italics, though this is not required
<_TaSm> <b> carries no semantic meaning beyond "make this bold"; if bold is not
<_TaSm> available, there is no fallback rendering that I'm aware of
<_TaSm> <strong> means strongly emphasized text; certain browsers render
<_TaSm> strongly emphasized text in bold, though this is not required
<irzyxel> huh ?
<kaneda_> _TaSM: that a quote from the w3c spec?
<_TaSm> Na, just related articles.
<kaneda_> I love it when "standards-based layout" people tell me that I shouldn't use <b> because it's *depreciated*
<_TaSm> hah.
<_TaSm> Just use b if you litterally only want somthing bold.
<kaneda_> Right
<_TaSm> I generally define strong as bold and a color.
<_TaSm> That way people I work with realize there is a difference.
<_TaSm> If you want it colored, ie strong, use strong.
<_TaSm> If you just want a word bold, use bold.
<kaneda_> Also, using tags that way helps screen-readers and search engines. Not everything that parses HTML is a visual based web browser.
<_TaSm> Its hard to get that distinction in your head though.
<_TaSm> Exactly, screen-readers+ and search engine++++++++++
<kaneda_> Once you're past the initial hump of understanding it becomes easier.
<kaneda_> It's the concept that old-hat web developers sometimes miss.
<_TaSm> I talk to people on a daily basis that are too stupid to realize multiple H1's will HURT them in SEO.
<S^Gerbitz> what does this mean: !tell junix|work about at
<S^Gerbitz> opps
<JC^Omega> ...
<S^Gerbitz> what does this mean: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1
<kaneda_> Means: try #mysql?
<_TaSm> S^Gerbitz sounds like your asking for too many columns or cols that dont exist in your table.
<S^Gerbitz> _TaSm - can I message you
<kaneda_> _TaSm: what do you do?
<_TaSm> S^Gerbitz, keep it in the channel.
<_TaSm> kaneda_, I'm a CTO at a small .com
<kaneda_> really? What's it called?
<S^Gerbitz> _TaSm - will you review my code, and tell me where to look, dont tell me whats wrong, but where to look at my code to fix it
<_TaSm> S^Gerbitz I'd have to be able to see your DB schema too, but you want you can put it on pastebin.com and I'm sure someone will take a look.
<rdw> S^Gerbitz: this is really sad
<_TaSm> kaneda_, Top Secret.
<S^Gerbitz> http://pastebin.com/547183
<rdw> you've been told 9999999999 times what's wrong in #phphelp and now you come in here?
<PapaBear> mike jones!
<kaneda_> ...is that's what it's called? Or are you giving me a cl***ification level beyond what I'm allowed to see?
<rdw> mike jones!
<_TaSm> kaneda_, Right, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
<rdw> i'm lookin' for a diiiiime that's top o' the line
<kaneda_> ...well, I've had a good run.
<rdw> cute face little waist with a big behind
<_TaSm> rdw, if you want that, just ditch the camero and get an import ;)
<deKeijzer> :/topic #php
<PapaBear> shes gods gift to the world
<dravine> so
<deKeijzer> nevermand that
<rdw> _TaSm: haha
<rdw> man, i hate imports
<dravine> we just concluded that we could replace this old *** server with a soekris box and a 1 gig cf card
<S^Gerbitz> PapaBear - stop singing that stupid song
<_TaSm> hahahah dravine
<dravine> and it'd actually be faster proc and better hardware
<_TaSm> What was it doing?
<_TaSm> Hosting?
<dravine> old internal ****
<_TaSm> Ah.
<dravine> purchase order forms
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