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<0> that's loads
<1> yah
<1> :D
<1> just done some stupid **** for virgin too. which was a direct result of haviong the billabong contract
<1> im a corporate mother****er now.
<2> woo
<0> you're still a major cunt tho ;)
<1> haha yeah
<1> nothing else has changed
<1> im just working harder and have a bit more money to spend on the kids
<2> StyleZed will the site be constantly updated? or just the clothing/apparel/misc. line
<1> role|Workie the first one to be launched is billabong girls. and it has more than just clothing.
<2> ooooh
<1> team info (sponsored sports people..)
<1> members area..
<1> all sorts of gay ****.
<1> sql > php>flash
<2> heh
<1> then mens -usa comes next
<1> then i think its s.america, australia and eu sites
<2> so its girls.billabong.com?
<2> or billabong-girls.com ?
<1> no it'll be billabong-girls.com i think. its on a staging server right now
<2> woo sweet
<1> http://207.181.2.76/beta/
<1> preview.
<3> nice website
<1> some parts are still broken and i need to get into the office to republish parts of it with the correct fonts
<1> so theres bits that are broken.
<1> thx.
<4> loads fast
<1> i try my best. i still need to break up some of the larger swf's
<1> im not happy with some of them. they still are a tad big. but its ok... i have time.
<4> well, you're entertained while it's loading... for me that's a biggie. I hate boring load times...
<1> yeh
<4> I CAN NOT let my wife see this site.
<5> It's a lovely "click here to download plugin" box
<5> I'd say you failed (no offense)
<1> cai.. they get what they asked for,
<1> a flash site.
<6> all girl clothes stores are flash sites
<2> StyleZed use SIFR. sweet use of flash.
<2> SmugWimp so place onload animation
<2> like waves or some****.
<1> 99.95 percent of their site users run ie5+ or safari. they aint concerned with people who dont have the plugin.
<2> killfr heh hear hear
<1> this is a business. not a w3c accessiblity study.
<4> role: My way is even easier. I just use text ;)
<2> SmugWimp that too :)
<1> sifr is cool yeh
<2> ill save the flash for the animation stuff.. but as for catalogues.. ill use html any day of the week
<5> StyleZed: there is no difference; business or not, standards must be used
<2> cai even artsy pages?
<5> Yes
<2> cai how are sliced jpg images handled then?
<5> I'm not saying ditch Flash completely, but it should never, ever, ever, ever, be used for a whole website
<2> container divs?
<5> Typically, yes
<1> cai where does it say that in the 'standards'
<5> It doesn't, that's just common sense
<1> well there you go then
<1> they want a flash site. they got one.
<6> not even browsers follow standards so why bother
<5> I hope they get shot
<1> so i should turn down a contract worth thousands of dollars
<5> killfr: it's that kind of attitude that causes backwards movement
<5> StyleZed: yes, absolutely
<1> because i wanted to adhere to the never use flash school of thought
<6> but that's unfortunately the situation
<5> If it means giving them a product that's worthless
<7> follow your dreams. you can reach your goals. I'm living proof.
<7> BEEEFCAAAKE
<1> its not worthless to them
<1> how is it worthless if 99.9% of their visitors (as evidenced by logs) are viewing the content
<1> one mans worthless **** is another mans gold.
<5> Whether or not they can see it doesn't matter
<1> no
<1> thats right
<5> I don't use linux
<1> what matters is if they like it
<7> lol @ linux dweebs
<1> and their client base LIKES it
<1> their client base responds to it
<1> and they sell more product because of it
<1> end of stort
<1> story
<5> I would say that I am in their "client base," and I will definately not purchase anything from them
<1> sure you're a girl
<1> ok
<1> now we know.
<7> what's the site?
<5> Heh, regular billabong, not the girl site
<1> well this is the girls site.
<2> rdw heh
<8> Its all just clothes to me
<5> And who is to say that their client base is entirely female?
<5> It's likely closer to 60%
<7> <linux dweeb> oops, i want sound on my computer. let me recompile my kernel and spend 3 days on open source help forums
<3> stylez it's more about a flash website will never be put in google or other search engine since they cannot fetch the text
<3> ;)
<1> whatever cai. you're going to disagree anyway
<3> but you already know it
<1> ShadowNight untrue
<3> isn't it ?
<5> Yes, I am
<3> stylez how ?
<5> Flash for websites is a crappy idea
<1> you detect for the presence of googlebot and serve text content.
<1> simple.
<6> cai: just download the plugin if you want to see the site. simple enough
<1> exactement killfr.
<3> StyleZed this can get you blacklist.
<1> only if you're an idiot.
<3> ok
<1> theres ways and means to do it.
<5> killfr: actually, it'd require a patch to my OS, because Macromedia doesn't support anything but Windows (and don't dare say "they have a linux driver" (it's _crap_))
<7> t3h best flash site everz: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor+2/
<1> they also support OSX>
<5> So buy me a mac
<3> cai do you use firefox?
<5> Yes, I do.
<1> i can honestly say there has not been a single linux user visit the billabong site in 6 months.
<1> period
<1> end of argument.
<3> flash plugin for firefox work very well
<5> I highly doubt that.
<1> who the **** cares about linux dweebs.
<5> ShadowNight: not on my OS it does not
<1> billabong dont.
<5> StyleZed: oh contrare
<3> linux ?
<1> <5> I don't use linux
<3> the plugin should be OS independant
<1> hah
<9> That's "au contraire"
<1> make your mind up
<5> dwork: oh well :)
<1> ShadowNight its not
<10> flash sometimes hangs on FreeBSD
<1> the linux version is several versions behind.
<5> StyleZed: "make your mind up" <- to whom was that directed?
<1> and it ****s.
<1> you
<1> <5> I don't use linux
<5> Nor did I say I did
<1> <5> killfr: actually, it'd require a patch to my OS, because Macromedia doesn't support anything but Windows (and don't dare say "they have a linux driver" (it's _crap_))
<3> i had a freebsd desktop with firefox and flash and i didn't have to change anything at the os level only in mozilla firefox.
<3> but i'm maybe wrong
<5> Learn to read?
<3> but firefox has his own plugin flash no?
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