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<0> re
<1> tye
<0> hey Drev
<0> how going with u?
<1> not much
<1> just chillin
<2> hi all, whats the difference between NAT and MASQUERADE in iptables? thanks
<3> i dont know the second one but nat is network address translation
<3> most routers that you buy, linksys, dlink things like that use nat
<4> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/what-is-masq.html
<4> http://www.google.com/search?q=nat+vs+masq
<1> Caveman!
<5> how can i set up hostmasks for my bnc server?
<6> huh
<6> you around Caveman ?
<5> ?
<7> Whooo need a name server
<7> with valid domain hosted ...
<7> and additionnal external ip addresses
<5> hrm...i own a domain
<5> i don't have any extra IPs though
<5> how would you set that up though?
<5> is it something that can't be done locally?
<4> hostmasks?
<5> yeah
<4> hostname?
<7> vhosts
<7> actually
<4> something like what I have?
<5> right
<4> also need an isp for the ip that allow that (likely has to be static)
<5> your ip actually resolves
<5> i've seen others that do not resolve
<4> it has to on undernet
<5> oh
<4> domain.com -> ip, your domain dns does that (easy). ip -> domain.com, the owner on the ip has to do that
<5> how does the IP owner do that?
<4> with their dns server, in my case my isp
<5> so you have to tell them to do it
<4> what isp do you have on that server?
<5> i have charter cable
<4> it wouldn't be static and VERY unlikely they will change it anyway
<5> well how do you get a static IP?
<4> get a service that offers it but usually costs more, I use speakeasy which does both (and doesn't block ports)
<5> is that your main ISP or like a webserver?
<4> my isp since I run servers from home. But you can get a hosting service that allows running bns servers (good luck!) that might offer the same thing
<5> what you have like a t1 going to your house?
<4> 1.5/256 dsl
<4> I wish
<5> my cable is faster than that
<4> I know, I pay more for less speed but more features
<5> like static ips
<5> heh
<4> 2 of them, and more. but yeap
<5> what do you serve off of that connection?
<5> seems like it would be slow
<4> nothing right now, before I ran a dns, webserver, email and more
<4> yeap ;)
<4> what do you need bnc for? want to hide some friends behind you? ;)
<5> no
<5> just thought it was neat
<5> hehe
<4> always a good reason :)
<5> its not really hiding if it resolves to my IP
<5> :-P
<5> shoot according to their site you can get a full t1 for 389/mo
<5> ;-)
<4> it would hide people behind YOU not you yourself
<5> right...
<5> which does not seem advantageous to me
<4> yeap
<5> why couldn't i still run the bnc locally and just have the ip and vhost set up through a hosting providor
<4> they don't have control of your ip
<5> wouldn't i be connecting to the bnc then the bnc connecting to irc
<5> so it would look like my ip was the hosting providors
<4> you would need to run the bns on the hosting not locally
<5> they do have a lot of silly little bnc accounts for like 3/mo that have all kinds of vhosts
<4> there you go
<5> its kind of retarded to do that
<5> eh...i give up
<4> why? that would be what you want
<5> yeah but i couldn't use my domain
<4> perhaps you can make a deal with them
<4> bns is nothing but a proxy. a kinda middle man. It's not a mask you can pretent to be
<5> but i'm hosting that domain locally
<4> hosting, aka a webpage?
<5> yeah
<4> irc checks that it resolves both ways for security, http doesn't care (and it's typical that it doesn't match)
<4> well I ***ume for security
<5> hmm
<5> oh well
<5> thanks for your help...i'll just buy a t1
<5> comes with 8 static ips
<5> could just have it run to my house then distribute it among neighbors and charge fee
<5> keep the remaining ips for myself
<8> heh
<8> wont you have to shell out routers for that?
<5> no...they can buy their own routers
<8> and uplink to you?
<5> yeah
<8> so how will you distribute the 8 static ip's from there? static dhcp addressing?
<5> static dhcp?
<8> yeah. there is such a thing.
<8> reserve a private ip address to a mac address
<5> each person gets their own static ip
<5> yeah
<8> er, public
<8> set to the router perhaps?
<5> yeah the router looks at macs and ***igns ips
<5> wonder how the speed would be
<5> have to charge somewhere like 60 bucks split 6 ways
<5> only working with 1.5mbps
<5> probably would be pretty slow compared to existing service on the DL
<5> UL would be faster though
<5> depending on who was using it at the same time
<8> 1.5mbps / 6 at a given time, on peak hours
<8> yup
<8> off peak, likely the service would be better
<5> bad idea
<5> still not too much at 350/mo
<8> thats your worst case scenario right there, 6 people surfing altogether at a pipe pushing 1.5mbps
<5> i'd almost split it 3 ways
<8> yeah, divide by three sounds good
<5> but its true 1.5mbps
<8> im looking into expanding our small network as well.. have a neighbor of ours share the dsl connection, then we'd upgrade our service
<5> i've read that 3mbps cable is slower most of the time than t1
<8> current modems arent limited to the upstream/downstream rate they can get, right?
<5> dsl?
<8> adsl
<5> don't think so
<5> cable modems are
<8> sweet.
<5> you can hack them
<5> then you get banned from network
<5> hah
<8> so if we had a 768/384 connection, we can get another neighbor and push it to 1meg
<8> split the bill 3 ways
<5> uploads could get hairy
<8> but we'll haveta find someone who uses the internet fairly regularly to make it worth their while.
<8> otherwise it becomes a piggyback ride on someone else's money :p
<5> i pay 50/mo for 3mbps
<5> nothing wrong with that
<8> how so?
<8> theyre paying for a service they rarely use
<5> you benefit from someone not using their service to the extent it was meant to be used
<8> it becomes trivially unfair
<8> at least for them
<5> only if they try to use it and don't get what they paid for
<5> IE: you hogging all the bandwidth
<5> as long as it is available for them when they want to use it...all is good
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