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<0> frame relay question - anyone up for it?
<0> I have a fundamental question - should broadcast work over frame-relay multipoint?
<1> frame relay is just a transport system.
<1> openmind, look at the OSI model for some clues.
<0> yeah, but it's called nonbroadcast multiple access
<0> NBMA
<0> that's what confused me -
<0> and I found a technet article that shows that you have to configure rip neighbors to unicast the tables when using frame relay multipoint
<0> when I configure it point to point over frame relay everything works fine.
<0> but I was really trying to figure out multipoint - I have it configured and I can ping from one side of the cloud to the other, but broadcasts, like rip updates are flaky at best
<0> DLCI to remote IP address mappings are correct - PVC's show active...so I'm not sure what's going on



<1> the routes need to be sent out in unicast yes, since you cant route without routes obviusly.
<1> hated the damn x.25 crap I used to work with so its not that fresh in my memory.
<0> well, all points on the multipoint are one subnet, so....no routing has to be done to send those updates
<0> I have 3 sites, each site has 2 subnets, then the routers connected to the cloud share one subnet over the cloud
<0> debug ip rip shows each router connected to the cloud broadcasting the appropriate updates, but not all of the routers on that subnet are receving those updates
<0> unicast connectivity is cool....I can ping from one side of the cloud to the other with no prob.
<1> well, frame relay is link layer, so IP should not be affected, is it relaying correctly
<0> yeah, I mean, other than broadcast everything seems to work, I'm just not getting my rip updates
<0> so each site can't speak to the other(except those routers directly connected to the cloud)
<0> this is what I think is going on
<0> http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/058245cf-e977-4bbb-9c74-974fc7468c5b1033.mspx?mfr=true
<1> I know OSPF has a mode to handle such systems.
<0> yeah, but rip it appears you have to configure neighbors if the above link is correct
<0> IF - it is Microsoft, so I guess it's only as good as the author
<0> look at the single adapter model
<0> which is multipoint
<1> hum, that ms page displayed nicly in safari.. not.
<0> well...here is the important part
<1> a **** load of scrolling :P
<0> hehe
<0> I think that's it, while my teacher doesn't agree, but can't give a logical reason why he disagrees, other than I'm a student and he's a teacher, so he must be right
<0> and he can't find anything wrong with my setup
<1> seems rather straight forward, add all the routers to each other router (IP) and tell the crap to just use unicast.
<0> other than saying I should set it up on different networks (which would in effect make it point to point, not multipoint)
<0> yeah, but I'm using Boson Netsim, and it doesn't HAVE the friggin neighbor command
<0> so I can't test this
<1> touigh luck.
<1> -i
<0> since I have no real frame relay cloud
<0> heh
<0> thanks for your time man
<1> np
<2> lalala
<3> afternoon all!
<4> how do u configure a LAN?
<4> in my network conections i have the other 2 pcs
<4> but i cant enter to those sites
<5> helo magtec
<6> sal
<6> hello



<6> can help me?
<7> what seems to be your problem?
<6> escse me bad english first...
<6> how find a good method for a byp*** proxy or a firewall please?
<6> give a vise...
<7> like a firewall at your office?
<7> and what language can you speak?
<6> no..or tunneling proxy
<6> romanian language
<6> so?
<7> well tell me more about your situation
<7> wwhat exactly do u want to do
<6> byp*** my proxy network (isp provider)
<6> i cant download ,browse restriction,etc.
<7> ahhh so your ISP stops you from doing 2p downloads, etc?
<6> yes
<7> well depending upon how exactly they are doing it it might be retty hard to do
<6> im affraid a not understand final phrase
<7> maybe not easy to do
<7> isp can do it in many ways
<6> say please
<6> so?
<6> you a found a method?
<8> get another isp that doesn't do that
<6> thanks
<6> but a vise for ...
<9> another common sense solution brought to you by BrainMast!
<9> Dunno what it is but I think BrainMast just has higher commen sense levels then other people :)
<8> heh
<6> nobody can't help me?
<6> or know a good program for byp*** proxy
<7> its not as simple as you think it is
<6> of course is not easy
<9> without physical knowledge of how they have it set up it is impossible for us to provide a solution for you remotely
<9> If you would like to fly one of us out there and find a solution I'm sure we could do that
<6> ok
<10> its also very likely against the accepted use policy of that ISP to break their filters. are you sure you're not moving into something illegal?
<7> anyone here got microwave engineering/networking experience?
<6> i vish a can download and browse, mirc and mess,
<6> nothing illegal
<7> well maryussica has your isp always blocked such traffic?
<6> another source for net nothing
<6> not all
<10> if its not illegal to circumvent those filters, then simply ask them how
<6> thanks all to try a help
<6> a nice night


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