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<0> make a scheme or it's getting more and more confusing
<0> when it goes to be as simple as hell
<1> so they are basically trying to lure you into buying more IP addresses for the 25 computers?
<1> since right now, with their nazi setup, you can only get four online
<2> YEP
<0> yEp
<2> thats why i want to share 1 ip without the system but just using the router
<1> by share you mean NAT, which you again said they dont allow
<3> jikfe: just draw a friggin diagram already....with correct info
<2> be it NAT Or anything
<2> i just need to be able to share using the router
<1> thats contradicting
<3> jikfe: are you working on that diagram yet?
<2> ugh
<2> no im not



<2> because we have a bussiness to get started
<1> then hire someone
<2> well what did you think we did
<3> feh
<0> :)
<0> have a good evening
<3> I suppose I should get ready for work
<1> and Im almost done
<4> yo
<4> pal = asia format, ntsc = us/euro format, right?
<1> pal = euro
<5> Europe would never use NTSC
<5> horrible quality
<6> wrks fine for me, but Im just a lowly american
<7> One day they'll have Gene Therapy to fix that :P
<5> it's partly why there is more HDTV in the US than Europe
<5> there's more quality to gain from it
<8> hello, evening all
<7> hey
<8> still awake man?
<8> :)
<7> always
<7> I dislike sleeping - it's wasteful
<9> damnit
<9> what's the first thing i should check on a 1720 router that can communicate with the LAN but can't get to the Internet
<7> hi tuckfard
<10> hi
<8> yeah, waste of time and money
<7> default gateway
<7> absolutely ngine :)
<8> Considereng i sleep at work
<9> <internet>----<lan 1>------<lan 2> cisco 1720 is on lan2. it can talk with lan1 just fine but can't get to the Internet
<7> naughty
<7> default gateway
<7> a route pointing to the network number of 0.0.0.0 is called a default route
<7> (or default gateway)
<11> Hi Hi
<7> ho ho
<11> Heh.. :D G'd mornin'
<8> Christmas comes early
<7> *tut tut* I'm too lame to read Bitchx.doc
<11> yup
<7> like those "die" commands in config files "I'm too lame to edit this file."
<11> Could someone point me to a good (and by good I mean detailed) website for sending all my network traffic through my linux machine? Basically what I am looking to do is eliminate my router and use my linux box instead...
<11> Once setup as a gateway, I would like to impose rules for my kids machines, etc..
<8> hmm.. iptables
<8> but I would suggest you on smoothwall
<11> Ok.. will google iptables and smoothwall.. thank you a bunch!
<8> or m0n0wall, clarkconnect,
<8> ThomasJ: try www.barbarastreisand.com
<11> That's an odd url for a linux networking link
<8> check out the download section
<8> just kidding man
<8> just google it
<11> :) I did.. thank you ngine
<11> Yikes.. looks like I got some work to do.. heh
<12> narf
<12> I hate iptables
<12> I need to get a book on em and learn them I guess
<11> seems a bit daunting.. since I've never done it before.. but I'm sure it's nothing unlike learning Slackware for my first time either.. :D
<7> tell me about it - man pages are soi incomplete



<8> heh
<8> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
<11> lol.. my load average is 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<12> I don't like reading man pages Intuitive I prefer a book
<11> I reckon I should make this machine do something.. ;)
<7> me too
<12> and I have a 25 dollar gift card for it
<12> err for amazon.com
<7> heh, cool website ngine
<12> hrm
<7> cool :) free postage
<12> I think I need to buy another one of those sata cards...
<8> bad, my wifi card doesnt support hostapd
<12> I saw that
<12> 699 gb's
<12> 393 used
<11> Wow.. 699 gb.. lots-o-storage
<12> yeah
<11> <--only has 400gb
<12> it's missing one 250gb drive tho
<12> it should be 900 some odd
<12> but stupid linux and the sil3112 chipset doesn't like segate drives
<11> I have 6 hdd's in my file server.. paired up like so: 60gb-40gb, 60gb-40gb, 100gb-100gb
<11> Ahh.. mine are all WD
<11> Eventually I would like to swap out the 40's for more 100;s
<11> s/100;s/100's
<11> File server is a windows machine.. this is my only linux machine on the network
<12> yeah
<12> I have 5x250gb SATA 2
<11> Ouch.. nice
<12> in a raid five
<12> but like I said one of the controllers isn't working so I'm down a drive
<11> No raid here.. IDE expanision cards running through pci.. heh.. pc133 cards.. but it seems rediculas since the pci bus only runs at a 66mhz bus speed.. ;)
<12> ah
<12> raid is the way to go
<12> I need to backup almost 500gb's of data
<11> Yeah.. it used to be in a striped raid
<12> plus expanding
<12> striped raid is not redundant
<13> ThomasJ.... 66mhz has a bus cap of almos 500 megs a secodn
<13> in no way is the PCI limiting the speed of a drive
<11> but one crashed on me and I lost the data from the other.. which irritated me.. so I switched to just single interfaces
<13> Just an FYI
<12> yeah that's why I run a raid5
<12> as long as I monitor my drives..
<12> if one goes down, and I replace it quickly
<12> I won't loose any data
<11> Kornchild: I agree, it isn't slow by any means.. but what I was pointing out is that the card has a 133 bus speed but the pci bus is a 66 mhz bus speed...
<13> ThomasJ well think of it this way, what flows more, a large river moving at 5 mph or a small river moving at 10
<11> JC^Omega yeah.. I didn't have the money to purchzase a card that supported raid 5.. as far as I knew at the time, the card I had only supported raid 0 or raid 0+1
<10> can you add a disk to raid 5 array (same model/size/etc) w/o destroying data?
<11> Kornchild I fully understand what you are saying.. Just seems odd that they market the card as having a 133mhz bus when the pci channel only runs at 66mhz.. that's all I was saying
<10> resizing container scares me
<13> faux add a disk? or replace a disk?
<10> add
<13> no
<10> i didnt figure
<10> well.. could add as a hot spare
<10> need more capacity tho.. not more redundancy
<12> oh it's a software raid 5
<12> mdadm baby
<13> ewwwwwww
<13> so what happens when your OS crashes?
<12> rebuild the os and reinitialize the drives
<12> not a big deal
<8> you eject, yell eject! eject! im hit, im hit
<12> done it many a time
<8> NEC servers?
<5> heh
<5> regular PCI is 33 MHz 32-bit
<12> NEC servers? wha
<8> did you know that the new video cards right now are PCI based but faster
<8> not the normal pci
<5> you mean PCI-E?


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