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<0> actually I think choice I gave you heat-on might help
<0> but if using an ISA server... heh
<0> probably you'll not be able to do it that easy
<1> yeah
<0> depending on country where you are located.. you can talk to an IT rep. to get a linux configured.. using a software for bandwith allocation
<1> looking for a realiable institute in my area where i can learn linux
<0> eventually using a script you can split your traffic and split it betwen extern and metropolitan traffic...
<1> hehe .. then im gonna install freebsd on my server :D
<0> freebsd is not that easy ;)
<1> lol .. i know
<2> you are trying to install something to control your bandwith ?
<3> it's not?
<3> :)
<3> oh.. relatively
<0> usually bsds are not recommended to newbies
<1> well .. yeah mervin



<2> the best on the market for such a thing is called Packeteer
<0> I'm a newbie too anyway
<3> mervin^^: it's good documentation wise.
<1> installed softperfect bandwith manager to control bandwith
<0> Heat-On, where are you from ?
<2> but BlueCoat is also going for that
<0> it is not that user friendly
<1> hehe .. you can check it out yourself mervin^^
<3> and all you need is documentation and time
<3> and you can get through *anything*
<3> :)
<1> hmm .. you tried bandwith manager mervin^^ ?
<1> :)
<2> Packeteer - Packetshaper is my favorite one for that purpose
<0> htb tools is a good bandwith manager as far as I know
<0> never tried it on my machine
<0> but saw it
<0> and it is quite friendly.. examples, etc
<1> can you ***ign x amount of bandwith to a certain user via mac address @ mervin^^ ?
<1> is that possible ?
<0> not via mac address.. but via IP address
<1> bleh .. our users knows how to change ip address
<0> then you can setup a rule... only with a specified mac address to be allowed to get on the internet with the specified ip address ;)
<3> they do? force DHCP on their ***es
<3> :)
<0> they might be able to change mac addresses
<3> indeed, changing mac is easy
<0> but I doubt they are able to guess mac addresses of their neighbours lol
<3> mervin^^: if they are behind the same router, they don't have to guess
<0> yah, right
<3> mervin^^: they can just probe :)
<0> never did this also heh
<0> if they are in the same broadcast domain I guess
<1> well couldnt find the baylan website .. but did found repotec's
<1> http://www.repotec.com/nway_switch/nway_switch.htm <--- thats the knd of switch we use
<1> 8 ports mostly
<2> eek chinese
<1> lol .. cheap chinese :P
<2> yuck
<2> Heat-On ... I think with packeteer you can via mac address but I never had to get down to that level
<2> something is not set properly ...because you should never have to filter you traffic at the mac level
<1> hmm .. yeah
<1> the thing is .. whenever i block someone's ip due to non-payment sometimes
<1> then he jumps on some other user's ip
<0> then you can do that
<0> get manageable switches... knowing about vlans
<0> and setting vlans for each one of them :D
<2> aint it possible to stop a dhcp from sending an ip to a specific mac
<1> manageable switches = $$$ costly
<1> unmanageable gets thing done .. without much cost
<0> gets what? switching matter?
<1> yes
<4> Dreamwalka> generally YES, depends on realization
<3> gets things.. unmanagable
<5> ffs, all the /msg and /notice spammers when you connect to undernet..
<0> yes... but as I see your needs are also related to layer 3 part...
<3> most places... man hours cost more than hardware
<1> lol SorcererX
<3> much more
<2> what are you using for your DHCP ?
<3> i686|laptop: I don't get any of that, maybe you're in some weird channels ;)



<1> lol
<1> well im currently darwing what my network looks like on mspaint
<5> this one and #fedora
<2> whats your dhcp server Heat-On ?
<2> MS ?
<1> yes
<2> 2k3 ?
<1> 2000
<1> is it possible to block p2p on isa ?
<1> any isa server guru here ?
<6> you can do signature blocking yes. I ***ume by p2p you mean portless traffic
<1> peer to peer programs .. such as kazaa , limewire , etc.
<1> the only way i guess blickong them is to disable the ftp server access
<6> that would prevent ftp access, not kazaa, limewire and etc
<1> hmm ..
<6> anyway, signature blocking may be what you want
<1> whould should i do then TMS ?
<6> why what? its you who asked
<1> and how do i do do signature blockign
<6> I'd read up on it
<1> what does sign. block do ?
<6> blocks based on signature, not ports
<1> ahh ... ok
<1> lol .. would you remote access my server to check if sign. blocking is on or not ?
<1> :P
<6> no, why cant you just learn the software?
<7> .
<7> having fun?
<5> excitement++;
<8> if ***('yes','great'){orgasm++;}
<7> :o
<7> else self
<3> for (int excitement=0; excitement<orgasm; excitement++) { ***++; }
<9> hey all
<7> hi halakar :)
<9> hey Intuitive
<9> you know anything about Range Extenders?
<7> has been a while since seeing you
<9> A client called me last week - a church, relatively small business.
<7> yuck
<9> I've been around, hanging out in the linux chat rooms. :)
<7> ooh
<9> Well, they have two machines that need web access
<9> cabling is impractical
<7> more than 100metres?
<10> use wireless bridging
<9> I'm thinking of a wireless solution- went there last week and did a site survey. I'm thinking a new 8 port switch, WAP, and 1 maybe 2 range extenders will get the job done
<9> we went there with the laptop last week
<10> several of the newer wireless routers/AP's will bridge
<9> we brought a test router and put it with the networking equipment. went upstairs to the first machine, got good signal.
<9> but, the next machine is a mac (grumble) and is waaaaaaaaaay down the hallway
<9> so, I have been reading up on these range extenders from Linksys....they seem like a good solution
<9> you said wireless bridging - is there somewhere I can read about that? What's wrong with a range extender? I have read reviews of them on tomshardware, people have said they worked well but can be hard to setup, and only support WEP for security - which for the size of this organization will be okay.
<10> same basic thing AFAIC
<10> http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=19&FamID=84&ProdID=293
<9> Right now this place has: a modem, a 8 port switch, then a router seperate, all tangled up together sitting on top of a book shelf.
<9> total clusterf*ck...
<9> anywhoo, what i had in mind was getting an actual 8 port router, then plug the WAP into it, then use the range extenders..
<10> I would get a wireless router and plug the switch into it...
<10> fewer boxes
<9> it's the same amount of boxes.
<9> right now they have three. modem, router, switch.
<10> not if you combine the router and AP into one box
<9> they will have. modem, router, ap.
<9> do you know of a wireless router with 8 ports?
<9> besides a cisco one that costs $1000?
<10> not off hand but I think they do make them
<9> Believe me, I've looked around
<6> dont you just need 8 switch ports and one router port?
<9> I want to go with linksys equipment, since I've had good luck with them
<10> I like my Buffalo HP
<6> that'd be a lot cheaper
<9> yes, basically. does linksys make such a box?
<10> its a lot like the linksys but IMHO built better


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