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<0> so much for the BrainScript(tm)
<0> we need to just ban the names on the list
<0> BTW anyone version them before the kick? might be something there we could use (like last itme)
<1> no reply
<0> well thats information too :)
<0> in fact you could almost use that for a ban
<1> unless a server is lagged
<1> fortunately that never happens on undernet(tm)
<0> #Mazatlan is crawling with em
<0> only the bots dont reply to a version others in there do
<0> keep it in mind
<0> I need to eat something
<0> BBL
<2> i found nemo
<3> I'm doing a test of name##
<0> wromg Nemo
<0> http://webpages.charter.net/nemo288/nemodesushi.jpg
<2> ohh sorry
<0> seeings as I have been using this nick since the mid 1970's :)
<2> i have had this one for a while also
<3> he's http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/IRC/Friends/NemoSilentService.gif
<4> heh nice poster
<4> http://webpages.charter.net/nemo288/NemoRd.jpg
<3> yeah, you gave it to me years ago ;)
<4> guess I'm getting old I dont remember that one
<3> Go down Nemo rd and take a left at Nemo rd?
<2> how can yo go down nemo road and take a left on nemo road
<2> your already on it
<4> yeah interesting eh corner of Nemo Rd and Nemo Rd ^
<3> ah Nemo rd <tree>
<4> MY town is down that road a few miles real nice road in the Black Hills
<3> woah
<3> sorry, that shouldn't have happened :P
<2> no problem
<2> how are you doing
<3> ok, you?
<5> slightly off topic, but does anyone know what kind of script i'd need to run on startup of each windows computer?
<3> to do what?
<5> basically, each day, either A) check to see if a file has changed compared to the current file. B) dont check, and copy a file from the server to each local machine anyway, if that makes sense
<6> vbscript and task scheduler would be one way
<5> yea i was thinking vb script actually, shouldnt be too hard
<5> well, is there even a way to compare files?
<6> you can get attributes and compare them
<3> contents? diff like program, or match dates...etc
<5> well, basically, its an access database file
<5> but i update the forms every now and again
<5> and the staff need to have this recent version every morning
<3> can't just point them to a networked copy? or does access limit connections...etc
<6> vbscript supports md5 hashes, so you could compare that
<3> ((realized I used [] instead of (), lets try again))
<1> you might be better off asking how to do what you want instead of what you think is the best solution
<3> if it's small you can just copy it every morning/night anyway ;)
<1> sounds like a network drive is more practical
<3> now it's raining and some thunder, hope fireworks are still on
<7> n korea had theirs
<3> heh
<2> why would n korea have fireworks on the 4th of july
<2> what are they celeberating?
<3> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/04/korea.missile/index.html
<5> BrainMast thats where the problem was, theyre all running from one version, and that and access dont mix ;)
<5> so have to use local files - a copy of the main file on each pc
<3> get them to get a real sql server? ;)
<5> well, its just the front end.. sales staff dont understand things without pretty colours
<5> and forms
<1> Access isnt suited for heavy use
<5> yea i know
<5> but i didnt set it up, it was already in place, now i've took over, an ima sorting it all out
<5> it dies about 3 times aday
<5> which is crap, as then we loose sales
<6> hexedit the db..."OMG, we cant recover it! I dunno what happened??!?!"
<5> lol
<8> hey dude
<8> word up to korea
<3> lol
<8> how's *********ion going BrainMast ?
<3> great, tring to go down to 1 or 2 a day
<1> which is why you should start working on a better solution, than a more automated solution which is just as crappy. thats atleast what I think
<5> TMS such as what?
<3> a full CMS? or something like ACT?
<5> not so easy really, i thought this was an easy solution
<1> it is easy actually, once its set up and the users have spent a day learning it
<5> well, the thing is, this is a big big database
<3> which is likely why it's having problems ;)
<5> about 100 forms, 30 i'd say are used all the time, 70+ queries used on a regular basis, about 50 tables, modules and such
<5> nahh, the problems are because its running from one networked location, ive tested it on local machines, it works fine
<5> but its just the problem of me working on the copy, and then each night, or morning, copying that to their pc
<5> and then all the problems are sorted
<1> no, you see, Access craps out the minute more than 4-5 users are on the same file
<5> exactly what ive been trying to explain
<1> as its not meant for that
<5> hence why i need a local copy on each pc
<5> as it works fine then
<1> yes, the crappy solution
<6> sql server is still a better option
<3> ok, we gave some ideas on how to do that
<5> well, were running microsoft sql server, with the access front end
<5> TMS how's it so crappy?
<5> the thing is, the staff are sales staff, they struggle pressing form buttons
<1> its like using floppies to swap data
<5> how so
<6> catering to the lowest common denominator is not always good. sometimes you have to invest in actually training people.
<1> multiple steps backwards
<3> so the only changes are when you change the look of the front end and not the data the sales monkeys enter/change?
<5> ill explain better, as i dont think ive come across as clear as poss
<1> heck, pay a student to code something web based
<1> since the backend is SQL
<3> xcopy has a switch to copy only files if one is newer then the other (by date)
<5> imagine on our server theres Database1, all staff have a link to this and run it. I work on a copy of Database 1 - Development1. Basically i then copy and rename mine for theres
<5> TMS it would take fooking ages to code a web front, trust me
<5> ive thought about it
<5> eventually maybe, but it would take too long, and i need it sorting now really
<3> so the only changes are when you change the look of the front end and not the data the sales monkeys enter/change?
<5> this database is just so vast its unbeleiveable
<5> and if the database is down for an hr, we loose thousands
<5> yea, i never change the backend, only the front end forms
<3> xcopy would be very easy
<5> ill have a look into that at the moment
<5> i know what you're saying though TMS, i'd like to take it online, and it would be my job to do that if it was viable
<5> wouldnt it be mega slow though?
<1> depends on who coded it I guess
<1> and in what
<3> you would keep the current way until the new solution is up, you don't have to take it down
<5> well, i'd probably do it in ASP or php
<5> BrainMast yea i know that, but i could just see it taking forever, even with say 5 developers
<1> AJAX and php would probably be the fastest, not that Im an expert in that field
<5> yea, ive worked with ajax and php a lot
<5> as i say though, theres 100'000's of jobs and customers, loads of queries, forms, alerts, scheduled tasks, modules, millions of lines of code with the vb code in the background. I might start it though and build it up bit by bit
<5> as it'd be better in the long run i'd think
<3> fun
<1> I cant really see myself suggesting another solution. I'd just feel guilty
<5> yea great fun :p
<5> lol
<5> ill have a mess around with it tommorow and see what can be done
<5> but in the mean time, ima goin to bed, so thanks for the help n ideas, apreciate it
<5> TMS bit random, did you ever used to be on #programming?
<1> a loooong time ago
<5> were you dos622?
<5> or was that someone else
<1> dos622 is named timb now
<5> oh yea thats it, i knew it was T summot
<5> as i was op in there also a loooooooong time ago
<5> so long i cant remem now to be honest
<5> but i vaguely remember your nick
<1> cant say I remember yours except for a few joins in #computerhelp
<5> yea, my nick was freezed
<5> rather than Advocated
<5> i probably just remember seeing or speaking to you in comp help as you said
<5> neways, im off
<5> cyaz later, thanks again
<9> hi all
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