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<0> hi, how can i telnet to a computer with a different subnet?
<1> that computer is in your subnet ?
<2> ah, the same way you would otherwise
<1> depends on what he meant
<2> regardless of subnet; so long as there is a router connecting the two subnets.
<1> yeah but if that other computer is in YOUR subnet ... you just need to use a static IP of that subnet to get to that PC
<0> im back
<0> the two lans has a router(each lan has its own internet connection) and between them is a switch
<0> the two lans have different subnets
<2> so, what's the problem?
<1> that's what I was going to ask
<0> i cant telnet to the other lan
<1> the only part I don't get is the switch between the two routers
<0> Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: connect failed
<2> probably there so connect them :)
<2> can you ping that remote machine?
<1> why is there a switch between two routers
<0> no
<2> if so, and you can ping, have you considered that a firewall is blocking communication to that port?
<2> or that the router isn't configured properly, and no communication is getting through?
<1> more probably a router issue
<2> :)
<1> always start at the lower layer of the OSI model
<0> physical?
<1> I remember WANtastic saying such thing
<2> good advice
<0> i'll brb
<2> heh, no use troubleshooting the router config. if the cable is broken
<1> exactly
<1> I wonder what is going on with WANtastic
<1> !seen WANtastic
<3> WANtastic (anon@pool158-144.dial-p1.dal.wt.net) was last seen quitting from #Networking 2 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes ago stating (Quit).
<1> really ...
<0> may i post a url here?
<1> yes
<0> http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1323/untitledmj2.gif
<1> ah!
<1> no router then
<0> im from the blue lan but im using the green lan's internet connection, subnet and all
<1> change a lot of things
<0> i dont get it :)
<1> sorry
<1> there are routers
<1> sweet I'm about to lose electricity
<0> :)
<1> glad I'm on my laptop but my modem is not on battery
<2> You could all be on the same subnet then
<0> the green lan has everything on "auto" while the blue lan's ip's and subnets are set manually
<1> BIG thunderstorm ahead
<0> back
<1> I'm out guys ... back later
<0> bye
<2> tata
<2> so vetis,
<0> yes.
<2> what is the IP of your machine, and what is the other?
<0> the internal ip?
<2> yeahp
<2> your machine doesn't have an external IP :)
<0> 50.100.*.*
<2> comp1 has an external IP, and the Router+Wifi has an external IP
<0> the other one is 192.168
<0> ah ok
<2> ok, are you aware that a router is needed to connect them, since they are on diffrent subnets>
<2> ?
<0> i odnt know how to setup the router though
<2> ok, well you can do it two ways:
<0> ok
<2> 1 - keep the current physical setup, but add a second cable and IP from the wifi router to the switch
<0> which LAN?
<2> 2 - move the switch to a more sensible location, and give it two IPs - one for each subnet
<2> in solution one, it also needs two IPs for each subnet
<2> plus that of the Internet connection
<2> it doesn't matter which one
<2> so long as you can ***ign two LAN ips, plus an Internet
<2> if you can't do that, then I suggest that you decommision "comp1" and use that as a LAN router
<0> two cables from wifi to switch?
<2> are all the computers wireless?
<0> no.
<2> if you want to keep the physical setup as it is, then add another interface on the router (cable + IP) for the other subnet
<0> you mean from the blue router+wifi to ... where?
<2> even better,
<2> I'll edit your picture and publish it
<0> :) thanks
<2> no use plugging it back into teh switch
<2> wb
<2> http://moonyluv.orcon.net.nz/vetis.htm
<2> sorry, but imageshack wasn't working for me
<0> thanks... and thank you
<0> so i do the setting of the ip addresses on the blue router?
<2> either or;
<2> it doesn't matter which, just make sure that you use the right addressing;
<0> ah. ok.. thanks again...
<2> If you do it to the green router, then you'll be adding an interface number 50.100.*.*
<0> ;)
<2> If you do it to the blue router, then you'll be adding an interface number 192.168.*.*
<2> and ofcourse, the repeater is a p***ive device, so it doesn't affect the addressing
<0> its in "ip routing policy setup"?
<2> i'd doubt it
<2> you don't need to set up a routing policy, just add another interface
<2> but every router has a different configuration menu, so who knows where it is
<0> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9135/routerhr4.gif
<4> morning!
<2> morning
<0> im afraid i might change something that my boss would notice (or worse, router will deny all in/out traffic)
<2> so long as you don't remove the current interface for the internet, it will be fine
<2> you are only adding a new one
<2> at the most, you may have to reboot teh router (resulting in temporary loss of internet connectivity)
<0> i dont really get the word "interface"
<2> well, a network card is an netwotk interface
<2> routers have multiple interfaces (network cards)
<0> ah ok
<0> so i a router can have multiple interfaces which can utilize only one ccat5 cable? or should i add another?
<2> it's a combination of a physical connector and an IP
<2> you don't need to-
<2> look at the picture
<2> the cable going from the switch to the repeater was removed
<0> oh ok
<2> it's now going from router to repeater
<0> but what about from the router? to the blue switch?
<2> http://moonyluv.orcon.net.nz/vetis.htm
<2> please, have a LOOk at the picture :0
<0> :)
<2> oh mother
<0> two wires then...
<0> :)
<2> why do I bother going to effort for people, when they don't bother to make effort
<0> sorry
<2> not understanding is one thing, but please :P
<5> heh
<5> hi Intuitive
<2> hello :)
<6> I have a question: when creating cat 6 how does one get the wires into the proper positionings with that infernal cross plastic separator in the center?
<5> huh?
<5> what on earth type of connector did you buy?
<2> no, doesn't sounds like cat cable huh
<6> I'm *making* it
<6> e.g. crimping and the whole nine yards.
<5> I'm *asking* what type of *connector* did you *buy*
<6> It's just a bit different from cat-5 in that it has a plastic separator separating the wires within the sheeth... I can't figure out how to get around it
<6> RJ-45
<5> I'm curious and trying to help and whole nine yards
<5> you mean the pairs are joined together and seperated?
<6> Correct.
<5> You're supposed to split the pairs
<6> Right...
<5> they make tools for doing that :)
<5> but it's not typical cat-6, they're not all like that and they make cat-5 with the same thing
<5> just an FYI
<6> Okay... http://www.infotelsystems.com/images/cat6_cable.jpg to show the center separator if you don't know what I mean.
<6> Is there an easy way to line up the wires with that separator there? I'm just having difficulty moving them into the proper spots for a patch cable since the seperator is blocking them from moving much.
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