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<0> then your script is spastic, id has nothing to do with it SELECT * will get all the rows <1> ... and people wonder why so many computers are compromsied <2> i dont use select all, because i split the list in 3 columns dynamically so to speak <1> has nothing to do with it <1> actually your question has absolutely nothing to do with SQL <1> so learn whichever language you're trying to use the data in <2> php and mysql <1> and don't put ANYTHING on the net untill you get a clue <2> my sql part is wrong <2> i discovered <1> no, your logic is <2> but dont know the fix <3> just a question... when I have to store something like an author's name, or an article title, is it better to use varchar or char? <1> ferner: I'm sure the manual will enlighten you about the differences <1> school holidays somewhere or something? <3> I have read it, but I am looking for a more specific tutorial on choosing the right data type for each column; http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/choosing-types.html
<3> was not enough <1> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/storage-requirements.html <1> read the whole of the manual before returning <1> OK TNX M8 <0> ferner use varcahr <3> I have read that page, but how could that help me in choosing if I should use varchar or char to save an article title? <0> its less painfull than hours of bitching aboutr reading the manual <1> if you have a clue what you're doing you would know <1> if not, you shouldn't be putting anything online untill you get a clue <1> Eldritch: not really <1> long term perspective, spoonfeeding increases the workload <3> I was using varchar, and in the pages I have read there were many discussion of people choosing one over another; I needed to know how expert MySql developers choose them, and this is something that I cannot find on any manual <0> i disagree :-) <3> I already know tha CHAR type has a fixed length, and hence takes more space but is also faster <1> only becuase you're not cynical enough to be objective <0> if he took the advise and left, i would be here typeing this crap, - time saved <1> ferner: how many rows are we talking anyways? <2> ferner, how important is it to know <1> Eldritch: if it comes to that a ban is easier.. <1> it would depend on a magnitue of factors, for any grand system you would benchmark it <3> I know how many bytes are needed for the most important data types; I just wanted expert people's opinion about it, possibly to understand why one should choose one over another <1> but how many rows is it? <1> couple million? <1> tens? <3> hehe no <1> ? <3> just 34,000 <1> in which case use a varchar anyways <0> 99.9999% of the things people come here for it will make **** all diff between char and varchar <1> 34k rows isn't really anything at all <3> I know sorry, I am not a professional like you, and that is why I asked... <3> to me writing something to handle a few thousands of records is already something, but I know that for people here and MySql capabilities it is nothing <1> mysql> SELECT count(*) FROM domains_full; <1> | 51268278 | <3> woah... <1> got it down from the 118M rows it was initially <1> got a little faster.. <3> how much does it take a simple select on that table? <3> for example, to find a domain with a certain name? <1> depends on your definition of a simple select <1> and how it gets to utilize indexes <1> http://www.kfwebs.net/articles/article/37/An-analysis-of-the-COM-Top-Level-Domain <1> one of the things I used the database for anyways <3> oh I see... my stuff is nowhere close to this complexity! Haha! <3> I understand you must be really annoyed by people asking what I asked <1> but as for your question <1> mysql> SELECT LEFT(domain,2) AS n, COUNT(*) AS c FROM domains_full GROUP BY n ORDER BY c DESC LIMIT 20; <1> 20 rows in set (2 hours 40 min 18.29 sec) <3> oh wow <1> GROUP BY is mostly the culprit <1> but the whole running a function on every row as well <1> mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM domains_full WHERE domain LIKE 'computer%'; <1> 1 row in set (6.77 sec) <1> when it gets to utilize indexes properly <1> however <3> oh I see <1> mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM domains_full WHERE domain LIKE '%***%'; <1> 1 row in set (2 hours 28 min 26.84 sec) <1> notice the difference in the wildcards there
<1> when it gets to use an index and when it doesn't <3> oh yes <1> but you want a VARCHAR anyways <4> is it safe to say "use varchar when storage is more criticle than speed"? <3> I read so <4> for my databases, neither storage nor speed is criticle. ;p <3> hehe <4> i did do a query about a month ago that took more than 6 min <1> hehe <3> K_F, those stats are interesting to read <1> remember the one I had that ran for some days, beebum ? <1> ferner: thank you <1> http://www.kfwebs.net/news/517/Nintendo-Wii-and-domain-name-registrations <1> newest addition <4> yes ;) <3> sigh, I desperately wanted a nice wii domain name, but the day it was announced I had a visit at the hospital <3> I came back home, and all I could think was already taken <3> I wanted to start a revolution website with some friends <4> i'll sell you tyson.homeunix.org ;D <1> hehe <3> eheheh <4> hey, don't laugh. my blog make $1.50 for K_F. hehe <4> it's #1 on the unix webring too ;) <1> hehe <3> :)) <4> i think i'm #1 on the ring because it's so fun to break in to my site <3> hahaha <3> Thanks for all the help, and sorry again! I never took too much time to think about which data type was actually better for each field, so now I find myself with a database to be fully optimized; I used int(11) for all IDs, and now I can't even remotely remember why... was it a random length? <1> been some time since I got 37 GB of "**** YOU" ICMPs <1> random to the extent that it would never be more than 10 anyways <3> amazing <3> ... <3> well I have a lot to read and to do <3> thanks a lot, again! <5> narf <4> JC^Omega, i told you, it's "SNARF" <5> it's not snarf <5> it's NARF <5> you cottin pickin son of a monkey's uncle <4> it's SNARF QUEST <4> lol <1> NAF is the only remote thing that makes sense <1> Norwegian Automobile Forbund (***embly) <5> narf - nerds are ready freddy <4> heh <1> except when I'm not <5> lol <5> the only time I miss you honey is when I'm alone or when I'm with some body <5> your memory never even get's to mee sept when i'm awake n when I'm sleepin <5> girl you never even cross my mind sept just when I start to thinking that your fallin behind <5> only when I laugh, only when I cry, and only on days that end in y ie ie ieieeiii <4> JC^Omega, uncle, uncle <5> damn strait uncle <4> heh, it's not even friday yet and we've already lost it :( <5> it's my friday <5> weekend starts on thursday <4> what's a weekend? <5> weekend is the time between thursday and monday <5> that get's spent on drinkin <5> bangin hoes <5> lil more drinkin <5> and a whole bunch of sleepin <4> doesn't ring a bell <5> throw in a couple lynchin's <4> i thought you were a scout master or something <5> I am <5> Venture Crew Leader <4> well then straiten up <5> but that's like being in the reserves <5> one weekend a month <5> two weeks a year <4> integrity is 24/7
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