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<0> there's a small problem with bash as sh IIRC. Something to do with the behavious of test. I don't recall the details though
<1> Well there's one thing I find a bit confusing with linux... theres seems to be VERY many diffrent ways to do stuff and config files for example are placed diffrently on many dists. Options are ok when it comes to stuff like gnome, kde etc but I think it's a pain in the *** that one distro may need a workaround or check to be able to work on another...
<0> bash is a little hefty to use as sh anyway
<0> Waxhead: yeah, that's a valid point. There's FHS which helps, and LSB will help if it ever gets its head out of its *** long enough to realise that the RH way is NOT the only way to do things
<0> Waxhead: in many ways though, the diversity is a GOOD thing. There's rarely just one way to do something, and dependfing on your exact needs/priorities, there's not always a best way
<1> Well to me it seems like to many distros are trying to standarize the location of the config files... reminds me of the big/little endian "problem" :)
<2> One thing I'd like to do is: examine how POSIX differs from original sh.
<0> Viking667: I don't think it does
<3> ugg all the spam in my quarrantine folder....
<2> ah huh.
<4> at least thats not as bad as having a full inbox
<0> Viking667: the original sh is kinda the reference implementation I would have thought
<4> I needed to clean my inbox twice today in order that I could send a mail
<2> ahhh, right.
<2> sirmaxxz: ewww.
<1> Anyway... I choose to run debian since so many other distros are based on it and I hope I'm right when I ***umed that debian is the closest thinkg to "standard linux" whatever that may be...
<4> Viking667, 100meg quota :(
<2> ah.
<3> hmm dont know if anything is "standard" in linux there days
<3> but there does seem to be 2 main trees of linux, the RH line and the debian line
<0> Waxhead: there's not realy any such thing as "standard". Debian tries quite hard to be FHS compliant at least.
<0> Redragon^: yeah, although there's quite a lot that doesn't "fit" either of those models (Gentoo and Slackware for example)
<1> Well I'm glad I tried linux it's a amazing os. Beeing used to older cool OS like AmgiaOS I feel more at home in Linux and also I'm very impressed how multiuser linux is ;) Unlike winblows where everythign is "on top" linux have stuff built in from scratch!
<5> .o
<5> i can't see a topic in here..
<4> .. in the wind ?
<0> Waxhead: there's a window manager that tries to look and feel like the amigaos desktop (workspace?)
<2> What, I dhave to set the topic AGAIN?
<1> smsie: heh I've seen it :)
<3> smsie this is true, there are several that stand on their own
<3> gentoo pretty much needs to by its nature
<3> slackware just doesn't change or keep up with modern day :)
<4> !gentoo
<6> i guess gentoo is a high-performance ports-based Linux metadistribution for x86, x86_64, PowerPC, Sparc Sparc64, and Alpha systems. at http://www.gentoo.org, or http://funroll-loops.org/ I'm recompiling this factoid with -O5 to make it faster.
<4> read the last link :)
<0> slackware has its fanatics too I guess. I don't understand WHY, but then fanatocs don't need a logical reason
<0> sirmaxxz: yeah, I have
<7> Mar 30 14:10:18 webdev kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000010
<7> Awesome.
<3> high performance huh
<4> smsie, just make sure d-side isnt around when you mention it :)
<3> webdev?
<3> that anything like webdav? hehe
<3> had someone request i add storage hosting to hosting helper....
<0> Redragon^: well, it's at LEAST 1.796% faster than Debian. And all you neeed to do to make it that super-fast is spend 3 weeks compiling everything!!!1!
<7> No heh.
<7> it's my build machine, actually.
<3> hehe
<7> wow.
<3> but the most popular seem to fall from the branches of RH and debian :)
<8> silly bawt
<0> yeah
<8> .o
<7> now it's fscking 800G of drives.
<7> Excellent.
<7> It's my VMWare server/test/build/whatever machine
<3> oh thats always fun danq
<4> fight fight fight!
<0> haha
<7> heh.
<7> it was NFS that killed it, actually.
<4> Redragon^, you already updated to centos 4.3?
<0> nfs has a tendency to do that
<3> i've never installed 4x yet
<7> vmware server is the absolute coolest.
<3> running 3.6
<3> i so need to go spend the day at the library downloading freakin isos
<7> So is there a simple "dumb client" provided by VMWare that other clients can use to connect to my VMWare server?
<4> Redragon^, cant download it via your sat?
<4> danq, er yeah the one included
<3> i haven't tried yet
<3> i know the library is faster hehe
<4> danq, what are you running?
<7> as far as?
<3> i want to get centos 4x, debian sarge, mandriva to put on test boxes
<7> I'm just saying, if I wanted to show this off
<4> version of vmware, gsx, esx, just plain server
<7> Like my uncle lives across the country, I want to have him boot the images on his box.
<0> there's a player thingy
<7> I don't know if it works in this manner
<4> oh, well the free player can run vm images
<0> ah, I think the player is a client, the image lives on the server
<0> ah, it can? Cool
<4> as well you can download a bunch of cool premade versions
<8> if you install vmware server properly...
<8> there is vmware-mui.
<8> which is a web interface to vmware.
<4> Revenger, wasnt all that stable in the pasted though
<8> which allows you to download the client from any place.
<7> I want to use the player to connect to my VMWare Server.
<4> s/pasted/past/
<3> lets see how sat does pulling down an iso :)
<4> danq er no go
<7> eh?
<3> showing an hour atm :(
<4> you need vmware-console for that
<7> bah.
<8> like i said.
<8> install mui,
<4> which runs on windows or linux
<4> or use the mui
<8> then you can download the console from $anyplace
<7> wtf is mui
<3> at 1:10 now :(
<8> MultiUserInterface ?
<3> still dropping in speed, down to 147KB
<7> which product provides the MUI?
<8> vmware-mui ?
<7> ...
<2> 'llo Revenger
<3> gnome-cows package? :)
<8> hullo Viking667
<7> bah.
<8> the same place you downloaded the server from.
<8> there you will find the mui package.
<4> currently I have about 30 vm's configured
<3> so is 1:15 bad for 533 meg?
<4> Redragon^, nah
<3> err 633 meg
<7> I've got a fair amount of VMs, myself.
<7> I just want to be able to have other people boot them from afar.
<8> Redragon^: i do that in like 10 mins :P
<3> i like the library better, they must have a nice fat pipe hehe
<3> i usually pull an iso in about 20 min
<4> I can do 1gig in an hour or so
<8> 16mbit DSL baby.
<3> yea yea you pos LOL
<4> or 50gig in 36hours if I really try
<4> ehehe
<3> i dont think the states even have a 16mbit dsl
<9> what is the command for trying to configure a graphics card?
<4> cable is promoting 20mbit now
<8> no, they only have 15mbit fios :P
<4> hopefully adsl will follow
<4> but they should lose their crap quota
<9> ?
<8> yeah
<4> Imean 10gig for a month
<8> its like daddy handing you the keys to his ferrari
<1> I have no quota on my adsl
<8> and tells you to drive 20
<4> just home working is 150meg per day
<4> luckily there some loopholes with my isp :)
<9> what is the command for trying to configure a graphics card?
<4> so I can do 200gig for not to much added cost :)
<3> rspiro i know some time back is was something like Xconfigurator but i dont do much gui
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