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<0> yes Coma, up to a certain stage ...
<0> I usually get confused when first implementing a new task.
<1> Do as I tend to do, read up ;)
<2> unless you go vrrp/vtp implementing vlans is rather easy, depends on how decent your hardware is though
<2> s/vrrp/gvrp/
<0> Coma, I read a lot , trust me .. tho still get confused .. the age think.
<0> tojoe, what's a s/vrrp/gvrp?
<1> That's a regular expression ;)
<0> :P
<2> it's a correction, vrrp doesnt have that much to do with vlans
<0> any idea why VLANs cannot operate on the same subnet network ?
<2> because you wouldnt be able to route between those? of course if you dont need routing nothing stops you from using the same subnets
<0> so, if I don't intend to use Layer 3 routing, nothing stops me from doing the same subnet? it's getting clear in my little head now .. thanks
<2> yeah, only way to connect them would be a bridging firewall - or a crossover cable :p
<0> great
<2> but that would bring up some new issues, not all switches allow that



<0> that's correct
<0> Tojoe, I wanted to use my 2621 router to apply the layer 3 routing .. with two D-Link switches ..
<2> ewwww, the d-word
<0> already came configured with one tag port and another untagged port on both switches.
<0> :P tojoe
<2> i only know their low end crap, and that's really crap
<0> somehow, I don't know where to connect the UTP cables to link one with the router on one end
<2> only thing i'D buy from dlink is unmanaged stuff
<0> the y are brand new ones, DGS-1216T switches, good stuff
<0> and support VLANs pretty good
<2> max 8 vlans per device, err, even my crappy linksys wrt54 supports 15 vlans :p
<0> lol
<0> the whole op is to enable on single VLAN to a Mobile company for Call termination.
<2> i wouldnt use such low-end crap for that, then
<2> afaik it doesnt support any snmp or other monitoring
<0> it does .
<0> our VoIP providers obliged us to buy the sin D-Link switches ..
<2> not according to the datasheet
<2> ah well, i had people call me crazy for using hp switches in an isp environment...
<0> _QiG does
<0> :)
<2> i'm contemplating buying a netgear for @home, 24 gbit ports, jumbo frame support, vlans and snmp for 250 euro
<0> u gotta be kidding me!! what do u intend to do with that ?
<2> replace the 8 and 5 port switches i have now
<0> at home or at work ?
<2> at home
<0> OH I C
<2> hmm.. test ecmp over the cable modem links or dis***emble the test setup and go home early...
<0> tojoe, how do I make the link between the router Layer 3 and the switch VLAN? untagged or tag port of the switch?
<2> however you like, just make sure both sides are configured the same
<2> und you can only have ONE vlan untagged on any given link
<0> I C !! cheers matie.
<0> what's the specific use of untagged port tojoe?
<0> creation of a VLAN on a switch ?
<2> no, if you hook up a device/router/switch/whatever which doesnt support vlans you need to use untagged
<2> tagged links are usually used to interconnect switches and routers, you usually dont need more than one network connection on your workstation
<0> that's right tojoe
<0> so,I won't be linking the untagged port to anything?
<2> most likely, i dont know what you need to connect
<0> link instead tag port switch/router to enable routing layer 3 on the router ...
<0> thanks tojoe, I think I got the whole picture with tag and untagged ports now.
<0> be right back, needs to try that out.
<3> is kiss the only brand that has divx dvd players with ethernet ?
<4> Where on earth can I change if Exim uses conf.d or conf file?
<1> Maybe it looks for a conf.d dir first and falls back to a conf file when it's not present?
<1> Or the other way around
<4> nope
<4> tried removing the conf
<4> then it just complains it's missing
<1> "The Debian Exim 4 package uses a quite uncommon, but elegant, method of configuration where the ?real? Exim configuration file is ***embled from a tree of snippets by a script invoked just before the daemon is started"
<1> So, it's got nothing to do with exim trying different options at all, but it's all debian's doing
<1> The init script probably glues all bits together sticks a generated config file somewhere under /var/ and tells exim to use that
<4> Aha! I found something in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
<4> dc_use_split_config='false'
<4> set it to True, and now it works
<4> Debians doing, so Ubuntu does the same.
<4> hehe, right-oh!
<5> i have a question
<6> That's nice. Care to share it with us?
<5> i`m downloading LinuX Suse 10 . i want to install the linux on my pc . can i access ssh22 /telnet?
<2> if you enable the services, yes



<5> ok... but
<5> i need putty
<5> is putty for linux suse?
<2> no, putty is for windows
<5> and why i access ssh22 from linux .. if i don't have putty ?
<2> how should i know why you want to do something
<5> i want to have a root on my pc
<5> for make psybnc\emech .. and a lot of things
<7> LOL
<1> Teddy: Ever considered that linux might not be fit for you?
<5> i need linux for make a shell
<4> LadyByte: paste?
<8> More than 3 lines? Paste your stuff at http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/ and then tell us the url it gives you.
<2> ah well, at leaste he's getting suse... nothing we can help him with :p
<5> i have ohter question.. answer pls
<5> why access ssh22 from linux ?
<2> i guess your english ****s big time, ever considered #linux.ro ?
<5> oh yes:)
<5> ThankS
<9> anyone in texas and want to come to a rackspace open house?
<9> we are hiring for everything....
<10> I'd shoot myself before ever living in Texas
<11> heya :)
<12> am instalat si eu pe pcu meu linux pe alt hardisk si cum fac sa scanez de pe calc meu ??? sa intru cu drept de root pe ipu meu a??
<13> english
<12> i installed linux red hat 9 on my PC
<12> and
<1> *sigh*
<12> and
<1> What is it with all you romanian idiots installing outdated and insecure distros?
<1> And bloody
<1> stop
<1> tpyin
<12> what i will go to the console ?
<1> like
<1> this
<12> the console is run ??
<1> s/tpyin/typing/
<12> the console is "run" ??
<12> a?
<1> Favi_: First of all, erase that insecure crap you have installed and try something like ubuntu 6.06, fedora core 5 or suse 10.1
<12> i have fedora 4 ... is good ??
<1> Atleast a little newer
<12> it's good or no ?
<1> No, fedora ****s just as much as redhat did, but atleast it's a little more up to date
<12> Coma
<1> Favi_: You were here earlier too, weren't you?
<12> linux fedora 4 it's good or no ?? i was download the fedora 4
<13> Favi_: I have ubuntu, it is very simple to install
<12> i don`t speak very very good english
<1> Favi_: Why didn't you get redora core 5?
<12> because i am romanian
<12> Coma i don`t have fedora
<12> Coma i don`t have fedora 5
<1> Favi_: Then go to #rolinux or #linux.ro
<12> and ?
<12> Coma linux fedora 4 it's good ?? i install ??
<12> now ?
<13> woha!
<10> Favi_: Fedora Core is at 5
<12> reality i don`t have fedora 5 .. i have fedora 4 .... what i install ?? :((
<10> Favi_: Then download FC 5
<12> reality i search fedora 5 and i don`t found
<10> Favi_: If you can't find Fedora Core 5, then linux is not for you
<12> give me the links... or .... :(
<10> Favi_: Continue to use windows
<12> reality
<13> Favi_: http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/
<13> there
<12> thanks


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