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<0> but directly from the GUI so I don't know what the output is
<0> whatever it is, it's about 3 pages worth
<1> don't run it from the gui...run it from the terminal
<0> Where is gnome's desktop?
<1> huh? i don't have ubuntu but i know ubuntu has one in Accessories or somewhere like that on the gnome menu
<0> Nevermind :)
<0> hmm
<0> it seems to be a bunch of error messages that it can't access files
<0> then:
<0> This can be because you somehow have multiple copies runnin g, or your system incorrectly thinks a file is open. If this message persists, r estart your computer and try again. If it continues to persist, you may need to completely uninstall Second Life and reinstall it.
<0> except
<0> I don't remember "installing" it
<1> try doing ps -e | grep scriptname to see if you have multiple copies running in the background
<0> nope
<0> it never did start right



<1> cold bronaugh
<2> no, that's you in a few yeras.
<2> years
<1> anyone know a good backup program where I can easily browse the backup snapshot and restore individual files as needed? something other than tar/rsync basically
<2> you checked out amanda?
<1> heard of amanda, but seems like something more specific to tape backups
<2> rsync allows you to do individual files afaik.
<1> hate to sound like a newb, gut a GUI would be nice also
<2> guis blow :P
<0> GUIs have their place :)
<0> so to CLIs
<2> yeah, in the trash.
<0> I knew it :)
<0> I knew it'd be something like that :)
<1> i sent an e-mail to my hosting provider at eapps.com....whatever they use works really well, they have helped me restore individual files and rename the current files numerous times...seems to take them minutes
<2> minutes too long.
<1> i know when i worked at a place that had a windows 2000 server and infrastructure they also had a really good backup program but i can't remember its name for the life of me
<2> don't use TSM.
<2> that's pretty much all I'll say.
<1> werd, have you heard of mondo?
<2> nope
<1> it does partition and disk backups though
<2> great.
<3> whats the quick way to clear a file in vi?
<3> dd clears the line of text
<2> 10000dd
<2> deletes 10000 lines of text
<3> like i wabt to reset the messages log file
<3> great
<2> uhh. why do you want todo that?
<3> im diognozing the eth0 problem. file has past errors, i want to see the latest stuff fast
<3> ive been looking at the old stuff for days
<2> then you should use tail -f
<3> how so?
<2> man tail
<3> again with man
<3> :-)
<2> well... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
<3> ok i love that tail -f
<3> great advice thanks
<3> i was looking for something like that
<2> now you can tell everyone that you got some tail tonight.
<3> u know a lot about linux, you should hang out on that channel....never mind
<3> dont quit your day job
<3> so with tail -f, it will just sit there and wait for a line to be added to the messages file, then display it when there is an apendege to the file?
<1> yes
<3> good stuff
<3> bout time i get some tail
<3> only tail we geeks get huh?
<3> yuk yuk
<3> im back again
<3> u know what i think my problems is?
<1> aids?
<2> yeah, I was about to say that.
<3> my kernel is for i686 and i updated with up2date on the i386 channel
<1> ^^ you had it on my mind
<3> i cant say the f word for fear of offending the fakos
<3> but i have aids?
<3> kick yourself
<2> U HAVE TEH SARS
<1> *crickets*



<2> have you taken the bird flu pledge?
<3> should i be using 686?
<3> i did so cause mu cpu is 64 bits
<2> no, you should be using x86_64
<2> because you've got an em64t or amd64 cpu
<3> i used 686
<3> just download correct version from fedora right?
<3> im going to download all the iso's and reload f'ing fedora. lucky me!
<3> wee!
<3> can someone please kick me when i do wee again please?
<3> ready?
<3> wee!
<0> Does Ubuntu not have a convenient way to use gcc?
<1> use apt-get or synaptec to install it
<0> I have never heard of either of those
<0> How do I do that?
<1> you have both...apt-get from the command line and synaptec which is on your gnome menu
<0> What would be the difference between gcc-4.0 and gcc4.0-base?
<0> whoa
<0> it says it's installed...?
<3> the only way for me is to use the new .iso files and reload the os right?
<0> but gcc isn't recognized from the command line
<0> Why would that be?
<1> honestly have no clue...i remember having to install gcc or gcc+ when using ubuntu to install vmware server which required compilation for the current kernel...i use centos myself so things are different
<0> crap
<0> Where would gcc be?
<4> padge: install gcc-4.0-dev
<4> Dependancies will get the rest.
<1> anybody seen this article? pretty crazy: http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/wholl-stop-the-reign/968/
<4> Whatsit?
<4> Thank you LadyByte
<5> bitte, Demonen
<0> How does one go about getting codecs for playing videos?
<0> LadyByte
<0> LadyByte, Say something
<5> anything, padge? well you STINK!
<0> hehe :)
<0> Thanks, LadyByte
<1> padge: http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_5_installation_notes.html#Codecs
<0> Cool, thanks :)
<0> Hmm
<0> Kaffeine doesn't recognize a lot of the audio streams in the videos now
<6> go for windows :)
<1> windows ****s...i only use it because most developers and or contracts require your app to run in windows
<1> a nescesarry evil if you will
<6> it's evil cauze u have to pay for it?
<6> lol
<6> if u were a developper u would not say such a thing "windows ****s"
<1> it's not horrible..if you understand its intricities and quirks you can use it from a power user perspective...but should all my hardware be supported, i would convert to linux in a second...till now, vmware
<7> hiyas
<8> sergiu25m: Why must tho troll?
<8> thou, even
<8> sergiu25m: oh and btw, Windows is a horrible platform to develop for
<1> granted, windows probally has the best development tools
<1> eclipse, intellij, and jbuilder work flawlessly in windows yet take a bit of work or u/linux
<0> Why would gcc not be able to make executables
<0> ?
<4> *shrug* That's what I want to know :P
<4>
<4> ... wc
<0> I am so confused
<0> I tried to compile a quick program to see if I was losing my mind or what
<0> hello.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
<0> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
<4> you're missing the gcc -dev packages
<4> and possibly some other stuff, like libc6-dev (or whatever it's called)
<4> aaanyway, the .h files are in -dev packages, usually.
<0> yep
<0> lots of stuff is installed
<0> but not
<0> libc6-dev
<0> you'd think they'd have that installed by default


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