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<0> !seen thegewp
<1> thegewp is currently on #linuxhelp
<2> earth1, it works pretty fine when you dont want to spend money for a commercial product
<0> Evening D
<0> The old one suffered from excessive yellowness?
<3> Damn you.
<3> no, funny man.
<3> it just wasn't "bling" enough for me.
<3> so I went on newegg and picked out a new one. after i placed the order i noticed that they only exchange for the same item, and within 30 days only.
<3> then i read the comments. :/
<0> That doesn't sound so good
<3> MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
<0> High reported lemon ratio?
<3> seems it.
<3> You'd have to think that the same-item-exchange-only within 30 days policy is an indicator.



<4> if I want to grep for two different patterns in one command is there a way?
<5> hiya longword
<3> what have you got against pipes?
<4> ie: grep one * and grep two *
<5> had a question for ya longword
<5> grep one or two
<0> Who what?
<5> i was curious about tmpfs
<0> Nos: grep -E 'one|two'
<4> red, so how do I grep for one or two?
<4> Long, thanks.
<5> longword just showed ya hehe
<0> tmpfs is the very best fs in the world
<5> where is it created
<3> heh
<3> Redragon^: me.
<3> mem.
<0> Redr: You can mount it wherever you want
<5> i mean we create these 1024m paritions as tmpfs
<0> Redr: And you can mount as many different tmpfs mounts as you want
<0> Redr: It's not a partition
<5> well i know i dont have a dedicated partition for it like you do on swap
<5> see thats the part i'm fuzzy about, where is it?
<0> Redr: It's a purely RAM (VM) filesystem
<3> oh wait, you're asking what /dev entry?
<3> i dont believe it works that way.
<5> how does it do that on a machine with only 128meg ram?
<0> Redr: But it only uses as much VM as it requires at the time
<3> Redragon^: try and go past 128M and find out. :)
<0> Redr: By default a tmpfs mount will set a maximum size of 64MBytes (half physical is the rule)
<5> example the box i'm playing with atm has 512meg swap and 128meg ram
<5> yet i have /tmp and /var/tmp both as tmpfs 1gig
<0> Redr: That's an upper limit on what it'll store. tmpfs only uses as much as it needs
<0> Redr: But you'll get ENOSPC as soon as you exhaust swap and physical
<5> so its not a true 1gig its more like maybe 512 total or something
<2> but how can the upper limit be higher than physical ram plus swap?
<0> Redr: Though that'll likely be the least of your worries
<3> Redragon^: never more than whatever your actual ram is
<3> but i never knew it would eat into swap.
<2> or will it additionally use the free space on /tmp when it needs to?
<5> okay thats more or less the info i were lookin for :)
<0> Redr: tmpfs has zero space ***igned to it when you mount it
<5> so a physical partition for /tmp and /var/tmp would be best
<0> Redr: There's a case to be made for turning your /tmp partition into swap and mounting a large tmpfs on the back of it
<5> how would you do that?
<5> see i'm thinking of the future, as boxes i've done previously i can plug the /tmp and /var/tmp as tmpfs for the ease of making them noexec,nosuid
<5> but in the future i will always plan them to be their own partitions
<6> SanJose`; please ask in the main channel
<0> You can always use swap files if you're not minded to change the partition type
<5> hmm wonder how hard it is to resize an ext2/3 partition
<0> Very easy.
<0> resize2fs
<0> Very reliable IME
<5> cool will play with that after this box is finished updating
<5> didn't have 3.6 so installed 3.5 and ran yum :)
<0> Redr: How how about one of these...
<0> http://www.giga-byte.com/Peripherals/Products/Products_GC-RAMDISK%20(Rev%201.1).htm
<5> its still a gettin :)
<3> Redragon^: why tmpfs anyway
<5> d-side was quickest way to make it, its own partition without needing drive space
<5> oh thats cool longword



<0> $150 though
<0> About double what I think it's worth
<5> cool concept though
<5> i'm having major reservations about usb till i find someone that uses the good chip
<0> All my DDR is ECC Registered
<5> though i've never had any problem with thumb drives, just those really big ones
<3> longword: that thing should cost nothing more than the sum of its parts... the caps, resistors, and the battery.
<3> i MIGHT be coerced into buying it for no more than $40
<5> geeze i gotta download 3.6 isos soon
<3> considering the ram price is going to kill you.
<0> D: There's a non-trivial controller chip
<3> four measly gigs.
<3> longword: bah i say.
<5> i want some fundage to start making large usb drive systems that work ....
<5> reliably
<5> uggg i need more bandwidth
<3> pfeh.
<3> if badblocks is reporting what i think it is, i'm fooked.
<0> Wow. They're selling 4GB DIMMs now. When did that happen?
<3> good lord.
<5> hmm i'll take 4 and a mb that will hold them
<5> that support dual core amd 64
<5> with pci-e
<3> uhm.. theres an msi that'll take up to 8gb that i'm aware of. :)
<3> well when you say dual core amd, you're immediately ***uming the presense of pci-e
<5> true but figure there will be some goofball company put agp on a board that sweet
<2> can only be the absense of a girlfriend. otherwise you'd hear the screaming in the background
<3> maybe, but thats ***.
<5> i never understimate the stupidity of a board maker
<2> dual core, with 8GB ram and 256MB pci-e gfx board for? gaming halflife? heh
<5> d-side and the reason /tmp and /var/tmp are now isolated partitions are for the noexec,nosuid mount permissions
<3> ah okay.
<5> though you can't do that to debian without breaking apt
<3> i've got a 256mb card. i loves it.
<5> d-side its an injection exploit prevention mechanism along with some other things
<3> i understand completely.
<2> D-side, thats the game people play these days with such high end PCs?
<2> that=what
<5> oh oh when HL2.5 coming out?
<3> HL2?
<3> oh
<2> still? not quake4 or?
<3> people with big nuts systems are playing fear i think.
<5> i'm lookin for the expansion
<0> A mere EUR1612.99 for 4GB of DDR2 PC3200 ECC Reg
<2> ah, fear
<3> HL2 with the HDR stuff rolled in is absolutely gorgeous
<0> HL2.5 is due in March AFAIK
<5> ouch thats some exp ram
<3> longword: have you tried it with the HDR additions?
<5> cool
<5> gotta find money for upgrades by then
<5> d-side you refering to lost coast?
<0> D: I've played Lost Coast alright. My card isn't up to it :-(
<3> well, yes and no
<3> lost coast is how they debuted it
<0> But it was still pretty even without the full HDR
<3> then they patched the game to include it
<5> i gotta shut everything down to run lost coast
<5> oh did they? sweet gonna have run it now
<3> the new card can play it pretty damned decently with HDR even.
<0> Yeah, but it doesn't modify the original levels does it?
<0> I know they've got a programme of releasing multiplayer maps
<0> Militia looks pretty, but rather different from the original
<3> modify levels, no, just makes them prettier.
<5> config says only hdr maps
<5> which maps did they update?
<0> Dust and militia AFAIK
<2> can you play fear with a GeForce 6600?
<7> phydoxx, yes afaik.
<3> phydoxx: i've been told its not going to be very good
<5> ah so only the multiplayer stuff
<2> they packed thief with the card and thats boring
<5> wait thats CS not HL so did they update any maps in HL with hdr? cause there is now a configuration setting for HDR in HL that wasn't there before (that i remember)


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