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<0> looking for Redb3ard; need to talk advanced webcrap with him.
<1> ahh.
<1> 'cause i'm not good enough and all.
<0> have a really looney idea.
<0> no, you arent :)
<0> I need to talk about all the tech that's coming into being.
<1> I've been talking looney ideas with him for years heh.
<2> hi
<1> hi.
<2> so I'm switching over to linux someone told me I should install on a backup pc til i learn it.. true?
<0> it's a good plan.
<1> That's a wise suggestion.
<0> so long as the backup PC doesn't totally blow goats.
<1> Because you're going to freak out when you can't use Outlook.
<0> and please please PLEASE install a modern distribution.
<2> lol.. so i take it that it is highly difficult



<2> I got three versions here
<1> It's not highly difficult.
<2> mandrake, suse, redhat 9
<1> Just don't expect it to be 100% slick right out the box.
<0> it's so f'ing easy it's funny these days.
<2> which is best to start with?
<1> Fedora?
<3> it has been said that fedora is The Fedora Project http://fedora.redhat.com/ - the community-supported successor to Red Hat Linux, responsible for releases after Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike). Red Hat continues to support Red Hat Advanced and Enterprise Server
<0> if you run redhat 9, I will castrate you personally.
<1> There you go.
<2> ok so dont use the redhat got ya
<2> how about the suse?
<0> so long as it's a new version, it should be OK.
<0> Ubuntu, SuSE, Fedora, Mandriva are all decent distributions.
<2> guy i got the discs from said that the mandrake was better than mandriva but thats not what i read
<2> I just know i hate windows and have always been interested in getting linux so got those
<0> he's an idiot.
<0> Mandrake is *OLDER* than Mandriva. Mandriva *is* Mandrake.
<2> yea thats what i thought
<2> he's got me a bit confused about it compared to what i read
<2> but i only download at 2.9 kb per sec so I have to go with one of these for now
<0> uhh.
<0> buy CDs
<1> heh
<0> if you don't go with something modern, heaven help you.
<2> linux isnt exactly readily available to purchase I live way off in the country.. hence the slow internet connection..
<0> so order it online, and have it shipped to you.
<0> http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
<2> no credit card i'm checkin into the fedora core 5 now..
<0> no CC? what, do the banjos strum loudly where you live?
<2> when i tried to download mandriva it was a 58 hour download for me..
<2> no i just have awful credit
<2> I can wave at the people who can get high speed internet though its not cool
<0> so get them to dl it on their connection?
<0> http://de.fishki.net/mypics3/otetc.jpg
<0> Russian clergy.
<0> church is cool, yo.
<2> lmao yea that would be nice i'm going to try one of the local mirrors and see how long it will be
<2> pardon my dumb***edness, do i need to download all of this? i386, SRPMS, x86_64 ?
<0> you probably want i386, unless you have a CPU that supports 64-bit instructions.
<2> ok cool
<0> and get a CD image
<2> ok.. which one? I've no clue on this
<2> or do i want them all?
<0> give me a link to the URL you're looking ati
<0> at.
<2> ftp://ftp.wicks.co.nz/pub/linux/dist/fedora/5/i386//iso/
<2> the mirror had too much stuff so i skipped it went straight from the fedora site
<0> well...
<0> if you have a DVD drive/burner you'd be well off to download FC-5-i386-DVD.iso
<0> at least then you'll have all the software.
<2> no go
<0> ok, then download the 5 CD images below that.
<0> or you might be able to get away with only the 1st one, but I doubt it, and it'd be a bad idea for a newbie.
<2> right so thatd be about a... 3-4 day download.. perhaps i will wait and get someone to dl for me with high speed.. or is the suse good?
<0> they're all going to be big. they all use the same basic software set.
<2> oh yea you said depends on the version
<2> yea but i have suse on disc
<0> ok, what version?
<2> hey shouldnt it be more than one disc though?
<0> maybe. depends on how it installs.



<2> ok.. i been looking forward to using linux a while now, I just dont want to jump in over my head and I want to use a good version
<2> thanks for helping anyways
<4> hi all, is there a fax server (software) that has the following features: fax in and out possible, file format doesn't matter but .pdf is preferred, can be shared on the LAN. please advise. thanks. I did google but i want someone who had experience on on using it.
<5> i have a problem , can't set up my internet connection on Ubuntu
<4> try me
<5> i don't have a graphical interface so it's very hard for me (just 3-4months experience on Mandrake10 who was super cool)
<6> sana: What kind of internet connection?
<5> PPoE
<5> i have a dynamic ip
<4> ok
<6> try: pppoeconf
<5> i login with an user and p***
<5> so that's must be all ?
<6> If you allready did pppoeconf, do pon dsl-provider
<5> i tried with ddclient.conf
<5> ok i'll reboot the comp and try this
<5> ;)
<6> Good luck
<7> well it's up now :)
<7> 10x guyz
<8> hey, Im using VMware, But when i delete the virtual hd, I dont get all my space back...
<9> `Fallen: probably because the instance itself still exits, taking up some space?
<8> i mean.. i dont even get a single mb back
<9> even after you restart vmware?
<8> yeah
<8> it was a ten gig drive
<9> did you use preallocation when you created the vmware image?
<8> i have 6gb on my main :(
<8> yes i did
<9> I think you need to completely remove the image dir
<9> not sure though.
<8> ill check the dir
<9> see if there is a file that takes up 4G.
<9> this doesnt have much to do with linux by the way ;)
<8> Heh.
<8> well its on linux so
<8> :P
<8> alright
<8> in home/fallen/vmware
<8> Theres the os folder
<9> there are .vmdk files that take up space.
<9> `Fallen: it's not _that_ hard..
<8> :P
<8> I still have 6.6GBs.
<8> Alright, One other question. Why wont this ISO burn? :( It burned but compy wont boot into install
<10> off-topic: hay, what was the 4x4 in TREMORS? on:topic: anyone got the Leadtek Winfast TV2000 Expert rem. buttons to repeat?
<11> hi
<11> i'm connection to internet through PPPoE. How can i setup the connection in FC5 (i need to enter a user/p***). And how do i make to connect when linux starts?
<12> anyone good with apache ?
<13> optocus, did you check out the rp-pppoe package?
<11> i'm newbie
<11> i run in console rp-pppoe ? or what?
<14> hi, a good web browser?
<14> instead of mozilla or firefox?
<11> also i have 2 HDD, on one is Win XP, on one is Linux. Linux HDD is master, Win is slave. If i boot from master(linux) i get GRUB but if from GRUB i wanna get in Win it writes a few lines and halts there... i can boot in Win only normally by setting hdb as boot drive
<11> i can read the grub man but i need to know what i should look for? what i did wrong? what i should do now
<11> ?
<11> sergiu25m why? you don't like those?
<14> like a Pentium 120 ?
<13> hey Fiona
<13> hey Fiver
<15> hey themaxxz
<13> ha
<13> nice one
<13> new prison break season had a good start
<16> i've forgotten, how do you determine your local ip address from terminal?
<17> bigendian, ifconfig?
<16> thanks
<18> good afternoon
<19> omgcano linux r leeeet
<19> whats dfa leeetist haxor on de linxu
<20> .km OMGCANO
<20> .kb OMGCANO
<19> did u notace that linux rimes wit penix


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