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<0> it's running on rh 6.1 "cartman"
<1> ewwwww
<1> i bet you'd have to look really hard to find anything on it that isn't vulnerable to attack
<1> heck its probably running bind 4x
<1> which has countless vulnerabilities on its own
<1> shoot 6.1 probably has telnet running ....
<0> somehow they got a new bind version on
<0> but the thing i'm troubled with is whois
<0> how do you create a whois record
<0> i've never even considered it before
<1> whois records are managed thru the registrar, they maintain the whois info
<1> thats not dns, thats a database of contact information
<0> but they sometimes display the ns1 and ns2
<1> each registrar maintains a whois database of domains they handle
<1> yup they should
<1> but thats just informative, its not effective for dns
<0> ah k
<1> the effective information is maintained as sticky records in the root name server top level domain system
<0> we're just the registrant agent
<1> well guess i'll go get some sleep :)
<2> hi
<3> flush
<4> yoh
<3> im talking to u !!!!
<4> im laggin all teh way
<3> stop reading cnn news
<4> roflrofl
<4> i dont read cnn news, its propaganda
<3> its too hard to accept, thats y u'r lagging !
<4> im no more lag
<3> putin tu parles a moiti comme un enfoir en anglais!
<3> :P
<4> omfg
<4> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4814988385088206097&q=pentagon+9%2F11
<4> check sa grande
<4> yo jdecolisse
<5> i just downloaded the correct firmware for my Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, what shall i do next?
<6> wtf are you doing
<6> 4h20 is coming !
<7> heloo all
<7> i have configured a mail server usind amavisd-new, postfix and clamav
<7> the message headers show that the mails had been scanned for viruses
<7> i also want to alter the mail as it p*** through our mail server as it is being scanned for viruses
<7> can anyone help me pls
<8> as root, is there a way to monitor what other linux users are doing on my box? ie watch the commands they are typing in?
<9> hi
<9> can anyone shed some light on shared libraries...
<9> i have compiled a shared library
<9> and it runs fine
<9> but when i recompile it with some changes
<9> its(the app) still using the same old instance
<9> even after i have overwritten the dot so file
<9> is there anyway to manually kick the memory copy out and force a reload?
<10> 'llo all.
<9> hi Viking667
<9> feel like answering a question ? :)
<10> that depends. I'm reasonably tired
<10> there. That's a question answered.
<9> damn...if i ask for another question, and you say something thats another one answered
<9> so i will just ask :)
<10> good. you're learning quick.
<9> is there a way to refresh a shared library, because when i recompile say something.so .. and overwrite it .. it doesn't reflect in the application's usage
<9> it seems like its still using the old copy
<9> why could that be...
<9> its funny in linux how you can delete something thats being used
<9> or overwrite it
<10> actually, if it's open, it doesn't disappear until the last reference to the inode is "unlinked" (term for removal)
<10> but yeah, for overwriting, you have to "lock" the file... using fcntl, or lockf (the FreeBSD people used flock too)
<9> ok
<9> i am using postgresql and using the create function ... language c facility ...
<10> and preferably using a exclusive lock rather than an advisory lock (that's a C construct)
<9> it must not somehow drop the 'inode refernce' as you say when i drop the function using 'drop function'
<9> wierd, i have never actually tried deleting a file i was editing
<10> databases are a different matter. I don't understand how databases actually work on the inside.
<10> ohhh.
<9> i can ... interesting how locking isn't implicit
<9> anyrate i think i gotta restart the db process
<10> hang on. You state that an application continues to use the old library. that's probably because the application loaded the library code into memory and locked it that way. Next time the app starts, it ought to have the new lib.
<10> Of course you won't affect a currently-running app. It simply won't work thatway.
<9> well you can add it during the lifetime of the database, using 'create function' ... which must load it...
<9> yes i realise that
<9> i ***umed unload would somehow detach it self from the shared library
<10> nope. only if the app is stopped, as in all finished up.
<9> oh ok thats interesting
<10> That's my understanding, mind you.
<9> ok you are probably right
<10> Well, take it like this - it's like a library book you take out. Right?
<9> ok
<10> Even if the library replaces content IN that book (i.e. new edition comes out) you're still holding the old edition.
<10> the old edition won't get replaced by the new edition until you go back to the library to get that book out again (***uming somewhat unfairly that they dispose of the old editions)
<9> ah ok, i always looked it like a pointer
<9> so each app has a copy of the shared lib at load time?
<9> wouldn't that defeat the purpose of many applications being able to share the same code
<10> gravisan: each app loads in code and mmaps it as needed, so it can execute that.
<10> I'm not sure how dynamic loading works.
<10> brb.e
<9> ok
<9> it works :D
<9> just restarted the db proc
<9> is it like a room of room mates, the first guy borrows the book from the library, and all his room mates hold a pointer to that book which is under the guy who got it out's bed ... even if it is replaced at the library, then it won't effectthe room mates; and ... it can only be returned when everyone in the room has finished using it
<9> and a new copy can only be borrowed when the old one is returned
<10> notsure how that happens
<10> Ed 1 gets borrowed.
<10> roommates browse it. new edition arrives at library, yet roommates continue to use old edition because roomie hasn't brought home new edition yet.
<10> Is that what you're saying?
<10> I guess the analogy somewhat breaks down if you stretch it too far.
<8> as root, is there a way to monitor what other linux users are doing on my box? ie watch the commands they are typing in? i plan to have another admin doing some work, but i would like to see what his doing
<9> yes
<9> yea true
<9> i gues if you can understand where it breaks down you understand the concept hehe :)
<9> mikky: top and ps
<9> its sorted, cheers viking
<8> hmm ps i know.. top hmm ok letme look
<8> thanx
<9> yw
<10> mikky: it's actually a little difficult to "peer" over a user's shoulder without process accounting, and even then it's still not easy.
<8> heh u see.. i got this russian from getafreelancer.com thats going to help me setting up some panels
<8> my tread: http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/63850.html
<8> but damn.. im a bit worried now.. who knows what those guys will do to the webserver
<8> prolly fill it up with backdoors and later use it as some sort of pr0n exchange box
<8> heh
<8> top is nice.. never knew that command
<11> Wooo! *Slap* Take that Michael Schumacher!
<12> another loss?
<13> heh
<11> mako: He set a fastest lap in qualifying with 3 minutes to go, then he parked the car at an awkward corner so nobody else could put in a fast lap in the remaining time
<11> mako: He ended the session on pole position, but the race stewards have now deleted all his times from the session so he starts from the back of the grid - pitlane actually since Ferrari decided to change his engine
<12> ah
<12> he'll probably lose to alonzo again
<14> hi, new to linux, looking for good irc client comparable/similar to mirc for windows, any suggestions? -=)
<14> wow this channel was created 9 years ago
<12> Blfrg: there is nothing like mIRC for *nix
<12> but you can try taking a look at kvirc and xchat
<14> thanks, I believe I have heard of xchat before, do you know if either supports any sort of scripting?
<12> sure
<12> xchat supports a wide range of scripting languages
<12> perl, tcl, python, etc
<14> great sounds like the place to start ;)
<12> and kvirc supports some too.. but i don't know alot about this one
<14> thanks for the suggestions -=)
<14> ahh ic, will check anyways
<12> thier websites is the first place to start
<15> hello
<15> in suse linux, how do you start stop services?
<11> sdb?
<11> Pah: Try /sbin/service and /sbin/chkconfig - not sure though
<11> Pah: yast should be able to manage what runs on bootup
<16> suse support database its well documented
<15> thanks longword and john1008
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