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<0> 'lo viking
<1> hi digiobi
<0> okay, so ABC was bragging about this Side-by-Side view so you could watch the race during commercials, yet they aren't doing it for every break... what idiots
<2> Viking667 and digiobi sitting in a tree ..
<1> *sigh*
<3> haha.
<1> they shoot sirmaxxz, who lands on a bee.
<0> maxxz: I told you to keep that a secret!
<1> the bee stings sirmaxxz, who runs away and screams...
<1> at Viking667 and digiobi sitting in a tree
<4> if you eat the apples from this special tree you know what happens...
<2> you fall asleep?
<1> Oh! Yeah - that's right. 0) Dog lover's guide to making paper cats.
<4> you are abandoned from paradise!
<0> okay, answer this... with car races, every car is advertised... so why do you need extra commercials? :P
<1> 1) first, find a cat. It has to be healthy.
<1> 2) find flat metal plate
<1> 3) find a steamroller
<1> 4) nail cat to plate.
<1> 5) Steamroll cat. It has to be completely flat for the shredding process to be successful.
<0> viking: you are scary :)
<4> Viking667, but when you steamroll the cat, why does it have to be healty at first?
<1> 6) get a chainsaw, and shred the cat. Don't lose too much, you'll need it for the paper process.
<1> 7) collect remains, and soak in water, with a healthy amount of cotton binder.
<5> cotfis: so you can have a healthy paper cat :D
<1> 8) collect paper sheet, and hang out to dry. Presto, paper cat.
<4> hm
<4> and the paper cat will sit with Viking667 and digiobi in a tree?
<5> no silly
<1> (for Gaia^, in return for my disgusting way of making a dog go woof without barking - I hereby apologise)
<4> Revenger, you there? how did you find a shell provider that offers a mysql db for the blootbot?
<6> i dont need no steenking shell provider.
<0> :P
<6> being root@ has its advantages.
<7> sure does...
<1> hello Revenger
<6> aloha
<3> hi.
<3> I don't know what to make of cnn.com's new layout.
<3> Ah well, race is back on. Later.
<8> hey i just wondering what the dif is between opensuse and suse?
<5> !opensuse
<5> LadyByte, factinfo opensus'
<9> there's no such factoid as opensus' neuron
<5> LadyByte, factinfo opensus
<9> neuron: there's no such factoid as opensus
<5> LadyByte, factinfo opensuse
<9> neuron: there's no such factoid as opensuse
<5> :D
<10> <3
<4> could somebody copy me my quit message, please?
<1> cotfis: ya pinged out.
<5> :D
<0> cotfis: there are a bunch of lame reasons people DDOS, espcially on IRC
<4> but to defend some lame piece of software like slackware?
<4> thats funny
<1> cotfis: err, it's not "a" piece of software.
<0> cotfis: just don't get into arguments about it :) Nobody wins in Distro-Wars :)
<1> cotfis: it's HEAPS of pieces of software.
<4> digiobi, i find distro wars boring myself. but there is a good reason for the antipathy of slackware and slackware users
<11> digi: Nonsense. Red Hat wins in distro wars
<0> long: lmao
<1> hello long_ER
<4> heh, long_ER
<0> long: funny, I though debian did :P
<12> digi: Nah, too slow out of the gates
<0> long: I mean RPM, ppaaaaalease :)
<12> Better than dpkg
<4> every distro has its benefits. i just cant see any advantage of slackware over any other modern distro :)
<1> digiobi: cool. Find me these two pieces of information about dpkg/apt, please. When were packages compiled, and when were they installed on the local system?
<0> long: I can't say anything anymore, I don't even have anything other then my laptop running linux lol
<1> Those are two things I *do* like about RPM.
<1> Granted, there are other disadvantages to rpm, but those have to be two advantages for me.
<4> Viking667, when you look at the contents of a DEB, the file date of the binary should give it away when it was compiled
<0> Viking: oh god, I don't remember anymore. Since I changed careers about 2 years ago, I haven't been doing much with any of my linux boxes... d-side can help ya if he's ever online :)
<4> Viking667, never mind
<0> I actually am throwing away 2 of my systems, possibly a third
<1> cotfis: not necessarily. That's "compiled" which is useful, but not "when the deb was composed".
<1> lol.
<4> hehe
<0> it's sad, but with this new place I have. I don't have room for 2 computers, let alone 5
<1> digiobi: yeah. bummer that.
<6> move then.
<0> Rev: I just moved here
<6> your dogshed is too small.
<4> digiobi, do it like me, take the boards out of the cases and build a pyramide with all the stuff on a little table
<0> Rev: I can't afford anything larger in this rip-off called boston
<6> ****s.
<0> Rev: lucky to find anything cheaper then 500/sq foot
<0> I told a realtor I wasn't looking at a house, the response was God I hope not, you have a million dollars...
<0> s/at/for
<0> do you have ... drrr
<0> anyway, it's expensive out here lol
<4> digiobi, another idea is you buy a super fast computer with a lot of RAM and run mutliple vmware guests
<4> mmm :)
<4> Viking667 :(
<0> cotfis: if I'm not doing much in technology anymore, atleast not on the techy side, no need to get overly involved with that stuff... I'm getting to the point of I want something that is easy to use and has applications I need... which generally points to Win for now
<6> digiobi: traitor! :P
<4> lol
<0> Reven: lol, well tell people like Intuit to make applications for Linux :)
<0> Linux still isn't good enough to me in setting things up as easily as windows, not my fault :)
<0> sorry :(
<0> I am chatting on a linux box still though, so not a total traitor :)
<4> you still spend quite a lot of time flattening things, yeah
<0> I use my desktop for banking, email, word processor, and pictures. WIndows does that all nice and easy and I don't have to struggle to setup my peripherals :)
<4> when i setup Fedora Core 5 i was deeply impressed the first 30 minutes, no matter how much i prefered debian before
<0> well if I keep my old HP desktop, I might install fedora on it
<4> but then the little problems showed up when i wanted qemu, mp3, xchm and other applications i frequently use
<0> but not sure if I'll keep it
<4> and xchm is a bum when you build it from source
<1> cotfis: huh? It is?
<4> Viking667, it is not?
<4> after the 5th dependency i couldnt satisfy i gave up
<1> cotfis: err?
<1> I just keep going until I satisfy them all, or until the deps take up more than 30MB
<4> i didnt have phsysical love for too long to have aids
<13> package-based distros seem to make compilation from source a lot harder than the package developer does
<13> usually*
<4> deps, yeah. on debian i just do the apt-get magic, sure
<4> sinthetek, i agree. often the maintainers split software up in many small pieces
<13> installing libs and such in non-standard places so you have to look them up/find them beforehand a lot and supply them as configure arguments
<0> is it yum that is similar to apt-get for fedora?
<4> digiobi, yep
<13> or half of the dependencies you already have are compiled with wrong options
<0> so do people still have issues then with dependencies in Fedora?
<4> sinthetek, just a little "--disable-this" you dont know about... and whoop
<13> i gave up on fedora and mandrake last time i tried them when i realized you had to have *special* rpms for them for like 80-90% of applications
<14> how i make a boot up flooppy disk
<14> ?
<13> and the first 3-4 times i wanted to upgrade something, i had to wait on special rpms or break everything when installing from source or using other rpms
<4> digiobi, not when the package is available in one of the few repositories. then its baby easy. but building fedora packages from source is a bit messy
<13> I586: cd /usr/src/linux && make bzdisk
<13> I586: that is ***uming you have pre-config'd source in /usr/src/linux
<0> so that right there shows why Linux can't get into mainstream
<14> `cd /usr/src/linux
<14> ?
<0> and the older I get, the less need for a cool techy thing.. I just want to get work done :P
<4> digiobi, that mght change when "smart package manager" grows up some more
<13> I586: yes, and then run 'make bzdisk'
<14> in any disstro
<14> ?
<0> cotfis: we'll we have been saying that for years... all we need is a better package manager :)
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