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<0> then use Gentoo if you really _are_ that cool to have 105% control over your system
<1> security info isn't always updated asap
<0> or go by Linux from Scratch
<0> but finally stop this slackware drama
<1> udev support came with 2.6
<0> what? slackware added udev support after all other distros did that 1 year ago?
<0> funny.
<1> udev came with 2.6
<0> 10.1 still came with 2.4 kernels by default
<0> thats funny
<1> and that came with slack...9.1 i think?
<0> bla bla, nothing came with slack 9.1
<1> so does debian
<0> you are clueless
<1> still funny?
<2> hmm... funny is Bug report #41459; xmms: xmms eats my memory and finds it tasty.
<0> no. debian installs 2.6.8
<0> if you have no clue we can stop
<1> i just installed debian less than a week ago the last time
<1> and it installs 2.4 by default.
<1> period
<1> in fact
<1> i couldn't even get it to install 2.6
<0> slackware in june 2006 is something for people who _think_ it is cool to use outdated and dead distributions, where the concept was already dead 3 years ago, and a hand full of people try to keep it alive because of some rhymes
<1> cuz there was no package for my arch
<0> if you are too stupid to install debian with a 2.6 kernel then you should keep your hands off from it and stay on your slackware
<0> people who use slackware dont deserve community support because they want it the hard way
<3> Weell, anyways. I think I'll be off now, take care, have fun with the distro war :)
<0> thanks :-p
<0> bye!
<3> :)
<0> <distro war>
<4> How can I enter websites with ActiveX from GNU/Linux ?
<1> i'm too stupid to install a 2.6 kernel?
<0> sinthetek, you said you "can't" while many others can.
<1> there was no option to during install/setup and all the prepaged 2.6's wouldn't read / or would just make the system reboot
<0> that is pretty much nonesense.
<1> no, it is not
<0> the installer component of the debian 3.1 installer offers that
<0> of course only when you load and install that installer module
<5> Jemand: damn, you been here all this time?
<0> bronaugh, nah, just hanging out while smoking a few bongs :-p
<0> came 1 hour ago
<1> Jemand: you mean... the install requires you to load special modules?
<1> and you say slackware is complicated
<1> :P
<0> sinthetek, the origin philosophy of linux and open source was to modularize as much as possible. debian follows that path still
<1> btw, slackware install is WAY simpler than debians
<0> well, debian is complicated for those who refuse to read the screen
<1> debian is easy, just install is more complex
<1> and i saw nothing on any screen about any modules being loaded or any kernels
<0> once you pay attention to what the system asks and tells you, you'll be much happier with anything linux based
<1> maybe because i used floppy/network install rather than cd?
<0> and -
<0> as long as you say bye to old technology like slackware. bye slackware...!
<6> Redragon: My find cl is something like : tar -vczf /backup/root.tar.gz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/tmp
<1> Jemand: maybe we should get rid of debian too...
<5> Jemand: lol
<5> good stuff.
<0> sinthetek, and it is _really_ nothing personal
<0> i dont attack you as person
<0> i am serious
<0> but i have a strong opinion about slackware that i express when triggered :-p
<1> Jemand: i am not offended personally, but i am offended by closemindedness
<5> sinthetek: what does Slackware bring to the table, technologically, that other people do not have?
<5> sinthetek: at least debian has apt and dpkg.
<5> whereas deadrat has yum and rpm (guk)
<1> Jemand: just because something doesn't work for *you* doesn't mean that it can't/won't work for others
<1> and just because someone likes something you don't doesn't mean you have to refuse to help them or be condescending
<1> bronaugh: there are 1000 other distros out there that don't really offer cutting edge revolutionary new stuff
<1> what does ubuntu offer that debian doesn't? no root p*** and easier install
<5> pretty much, yeah. it's a specialization of Debian for workstations.
<0> sinthetek, please mention one single aspect of the usage of slackware that is "better" solved there
<1> that is no reason to start freaking out and bashing anyone who uses ubuntu
<5> yes there is ;)
<1> Jemand: i named a couple already
<5> let's all hold hands children, and sing happy songs about friendship.
<1> Jemand: for a few years the *only* installer that worked on my system was slackware's
<1> not bsd, not debian, not redhat, not openlinux or a few others i tried
<1> i could have copied from drive to drive or something but at the time i only had one system
<1> and little experience
<1> another reason is the init system. some people, including myself, prefer bsd-style
<6> how would i grant this user read access to / ? add him to "disk" group ?
<1> the installer issue had to do with kernel panics and segfaults at different stages of install
<1> emislo: every user should ahve that anyway. ls -ld /
<1> have*
<6> AND, Is it OK to run a backup job as root, or should a create a special user with read access to / that will be used for backup's ? whats better ?
<1> oh, you mean to / recursively or something?
<5> emislo: normally backup jobs run as root, as far as I know
<1> i never heard of any other way
<1> so anyway.. yeah. slackware is still maintained and isn't too much harder than anything else
<1> updating a slackware system isn't much harder than wgetting the slackware-current dir and then running pkgtool in the same dir
<5> sinthetek: whereas with debian you have to work so hard. apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
<1> although i know it isn't what is considered 'proper package management'
<1> i never said it was hard in debian
<0> sinthetek, problem is that you name things that are gone for years
<1> this isn't slackware vs debian
<1> it's everyone on undernet vs slackware
<0> i dont live in the past, i try to live in the moment, in the present
<1> apparently :P
<1> what did i name that was gone for years?
<5> meh. this is a stoned conversation. not much point in continuing it.
<1> i am just disproving all these ***umptions jemand and others are making about slackwares usability and maintenance
<5> meh. slackware's probably OK; I've just never used it.
<1> i just disproved nearly every ***ertion he made as to why it ****ed so bad
<1> and for the record
<1> even if that installer module to select a kernel does exist
<1> it still wouldn't have worked
<1> because as i stated previously, there is no 2.6 package for my arch in the debian repositories
<1> i tried every 2.6 package they had
<1> either they wouldn't mount / for some reason or they would just reboot my system upon init
<1> this is with my gateway/firewall system (200mhz pentium)
<1> i have no idea why the others wouldn't boot / still... it's on ext3 :\
<1> i'm still running 2.4 until they have a 2.6 for 586 (which is what debian installed and works fine with 2.4)
<5> I think the Pentium has reached the end of the road that way.
<1> actually i'll stick with 2.4 for a while at least
<5> 486 is still used in embedded stuff but the Pentium is a real redheaded stepchild.
<1> cuz i still have no idea whatsover is making this madwifi module start/stop working
<1> not sure i follow
<1> i never have been that keen with hardware
<7> hi all, can anyone help me regarding perl/cpan please?
<1> aren't some pentiums 486?
<5> sinthetek: no.
<8> 486 was 486 :)
<5> sinthetek: if it's an Intel Pentium, it supports the full instruction set.
<1> what were 486's called? just 486?
<5> sinthetek: yeah.. or 5x86, etc.
<7> i am installing Clamav and it is asking for LOTS of perl modules to be installed as well
<8> pentium 1 were 586, 2, 3, and 4 are 686
<7> do i have to download each from search.cpan.org and install manually?
<7> or is there a faster way please?
<5> sinthetek: oddly there's a few quirky chips out there... some CPUs that use a Pentium socket but don't have the full instruction set, and a few that use the 486 socket and do.
<1> azc-uk: distribution?
<1> i have a pentium mmx
<6> -p to preserve permissions, right ?
<5> yeah, that's about the least crappy Pentium.
<1> that explains why it's still running strong after 10 years nearly, hehe
<9> pentium means 586
<9> penta ... 5
<7> sorry, centos 4
<1> Deutschland-: good call...
<7> every time i try to install another module, there are MORE dependencies
<5> and, well, it's only a Pentium because they could trademark that.
<7> they're forking off like parallel dimensions!
<1> Deutschland-: but it might have been called that because it was the *start* of 586
<5> and they found they couldn't trademark 486...
<9> centrino is 686
<1> i remember hearing about that
<1> the trademark think
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