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<0> i trie blackbox as well
<1> what? resources eating by fluxbox? uhm...
<1> what you say about KDE then?!
<0> i don't like either of them, but i am really short on resources so what are you going to do
<1> KDE+Firefox == resource hog No.1
<2> Jemand: No comment ;)
<3> what is 0.4% of 1gb?
<1> Microsoft slogan: have too much physical RAM? setup KDE on Novell Linux!
<3> that's what my flux is using in memory
<1> know what? microsoft noticed now that open source firefox wastes resources better than internet explorer. so they change business in 2008
<1> :D
<2> sinthetek: Heh, same her for bb ;)
<0> whats the shortcut to quit x
<3> Bodhisattva: the wrong way to kill x unless you have to is what it is
<1> 4MB ram for a pure window manager is okay. but i demand more: and desktop environements use more resources, thats a logical fact. but... the point is the relation



<2> ctrl-alt-backspace
<3> Bodhisattva: goto themes.freshmeat.net and click on 'fluxbox' or 'blackbox'
<1> to the backspace front!
<3> then tell us how bad you think they are :P
<2> Hmmm
<3> Jemand: 4mb? wouldn't that be like 4kb?
<2> I think it kind of stops to matter which wm you use, as soon as you fire up firefox
<3> depends on ram/swap & thrash-margin
<1> sinthetek, 1024MB div 100 * 4/10 aka 0.4% ~ 4MB
<0> wow some of them don't look to bad
<1> LadyByte, 1024/4*10
<4> 2560
<2> Heh, firefox even dwarfs osx's memory hungriness
<1> uh
<1> i think my brain is asleep
<3> 1024/4/10 isn't it?
<3> no wait
<1> LadyByte, 1024*10/4
<4> 2560
<3> gah i hate math
<2> lol
<1> LadyByte, 1024*4/10
<4> 409.6
<1> hm
<3> LadyByte 1024/10/4
<4> 25.6
<1> LadyByte, 4/10240
<4> 0.000390625
<1> LadyByte, 4/10240*1024
<4> 0.4
<1> hahaha
<3> *sigh*
<2> Yes, it's 4MB :p
<1> LadyByte, i think we both are stoned, huh
<4> I think you lost me on that one, Jemand
<1> indeed
<3> this is what pretty much stopped my coding endeavors in their tracks, hehe
<5> how can i check what my ip is if iam using dhcp ?
<6> hmm.. if we give some thing really hard, something that takes alot of calculations, do you think LadyByte might crash ?
<2> B-Ware: ifconfig will tell you
<3> ChaMeLioN: nope
<6> thats great
<3> she is coded to prevent that
<3> and well tested i'm sure
<3> i've seen people try a few times
<1> Coma, you know whats sad when a person is stoned? there are 1000 thoughts that should be noted down!
<6> sinthetek: you did the coding ?
<3> nope
<3> i forget who does it
<2> Jemand: Only to find out next day that your handwriting is barely readable :P
<5> Coma : i tried ifconfig but no ip there !
<1> my hand writing is 2+
<2> B-Ware: Then dhcp isn't working :P
<1> when i have enough time
<1> which i do
<3> B-Ware: try rebooting yoru cable modem
<3> or router or whatever
<2> B-Ware: Did you only change your config just now, or actually run a dhcp client too?
<5> Coma : how can i check if is workig or not , the connection was just fine yesterday
<3> B-Ware: i usually try to get an ip twice, then if it still didn't work, i will reboot whatever i'm trying to get an ip from. that usually works
<2> Since just changing your config won't get you a new lease automagically



<3> oh yeah, you'd need to run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 after modifying rc.inet1.conf
<2> or just run pump/dhclient/whatever by hand ;)
<3> dhcpcd :P
<2> Or on a sane distro, you'd..... *grin*
<3> !@#!
<5> ok i will try and get back
<2> B-Ware: If everything else fails, try the windows way of things, reboot. :P
<5> Cool :)
<5> Coma : worked after editing /etc/rc.d/rc.init1.conf and running rc.init1 :)
<5> everything is fone now :)
<5> thanks alot
<3> hahahaha
<3> charlize theron smokes weed!
<3> well i'll be... she *can* get hotter
<3> http://www.stereogum.com/img/charlize_apple.jpg
<2> Lol, cool pipe!
<3> :P
<2> Heh, couldn't have been easier
<3> :P
<0> ok i am going to attempt to install a them on fluxbox, wish me luck, lol
<3> :P
<3> it's not terribly hard
<0> i'm not terribly bright, so it might be
<3> haha
<3> touche!
<3> did you know carl sagan smoked weed?
<3> i read a story/article thing he wrote about it about a year ago
<2> Who's he?
<3> ...
<0> lol
<3> he's a famous scifi writer and scientist
<3> he helped found seti amongst other things, iirc
<0> and rastafarian lol
<2> Yeah, wikipedia already answered ;)
<2> Google's results are funny as hell
<3> yeah, i saw that cosmos thing he did
<3> that was great
<2> There's quite a bit onthe wiki page, yet google returns this snippet: "Carl Sagan was a user of marijuana, although he never publicly admitted it ..."
<3> heh, he admitted it at one point in that story i read... but it might not have gotten published until after his death or something
<3> oh yeah, i forgot about contact
<3> he wrote th book for that, too
<2> The movie with jodie foster?
<3> yeah
<0> ok got some weird errors while untarring this thing
<0> cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 10: operation not permitted
<0> i am logged in as root
<3> Bodhisattva: using selinux, pax or openwall?
<3> or anything like that?
<0> not that i know of
<0> plain old slackware 10 in console
<3> those are patches intended to secure the kernel from exploitation attempts
<3> waht does uname -r say?
<3> what*
<0> it not even online yet man, not exploited yet
<3> that might reveal if you're using grsec or pax... i don't think selinux would show up
<0> 2.4.26
<7> I am getting the following error trying to get exim to deliver mail from a Centos system to my isp:
<3> you haven't modified the kernel at all you say?
<7> k4gvo@mindspring.com R=send_to_gateway T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<root@asterisk1.local> SIZE=1334: host mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.17]: 553 asterisk1.local does not exist
<0> ah nevermind i am stupid, i didn't mv it to root folder first
<3> and that's 10 or 10.1 or...?
<3> oh
<3> well still dunno why you'd get that error, heh
<0> well it works after i moved it to root folder
<3> where was it at to begin with? some sort of virtual fs?
<7> Any idea how to get it to work correctly?
<7> I'm using a manual route in the exim.conf file pointing to bellsouth.net.
<2> Jim_: Set a correct servername, or change exim's config
<0> on my floppy drive
<2> It chockes on the hostname your server is posing as
<7> The problem seems to be he thinks it is coming from asterisk1.localdomain.
<7> Which is in the /etc/hosts file.
<7> But that's right, however it's nog going to find it on a dns server anywhere since it's a private network.


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