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<0> yes
<1> and to the host you connect another computer, right ?
<0> yes
<0> main pc connected to net via usb modem
<0> other pc connected to main pc via lan
<1> and you want to share connection to the other pc as well, right??
<0> yes
<1> ok, so all you have to do is to put iptables script to do NAT for you
<0> ok will give it a try
<2> would a layer 2 switch be more or less configurable than a layer 3?
<1> what is the name of the interface that guest pc is connected to host ??
<1> you have only one network card ?
<1> can you ping the host from the guest ?
<0> wewrrss I can ping host from guest and guest from host
<1> here is what you have to put in script:
<1> #!/bin/sh
<0> pfft
<0> bah heaint coming back online
<3> How the hell do I stop Ubuntu from blocking out my Windows hard drive? I'm sick of being unable to access it.
<4> huh? NTFS, or FAT32?
<3> ... bah, sorry. It changed placement, nevermind
<3> The filebrowser is crashing everytime it sees my movies folder.
<4> And usually, you have to be "root" to actually MOUNT the thing unless there's an entry in /etc/fstab pointing to it and "users" is in the options
<4> ahh, right.
<5> why is Ubuntu messy comparied to Debian??
<3> No clue.
<3> I'm annoyed that I couldn't get my modem working without a browser, tho.
<4> eh?
<5> it doesnt even update with debian any more, they want you to apt-get off there ubuntu updates
<4> Well, THAT'S complete and utter hogwash
<4> uxiien: then you need to point it at the Debian sources, and do a dist-upgrade, CAREFULLY. That's been known to break systems.
<4> So. What do you want? Ubuntu? Debian? make up yer mind... <grin>
<5> wtf?
<3> I'll stick with this strange, burnt-sienna and umber OS for now.
<4> Then why are you worried about not being able to grab debs from a Debian mirror then?
<5> Ubuntu was made from debian, but if your going to install it might as well use the real thing
<4> It was MADE from debian, but some modifications were made to it, packages added, stuff that made it no longer a straight plain Debian.
<5> kanotix updates from the debian unstable
<3> Yeah.
<3> "Lot easier to configure, for me. I'm used to The OS Which Need Not Be Spoken Of.
<5> but ubuntu doesnt seem to behave nice like debian will behave on my machines
<5> ndis wrapper doesnt like my wireless driver I downloaded from dell.com
<4> I don't know, as I've only put it on one machine. It worked well enough there, with some oddball very occasional faults with the DRI (i810 chipset)
<4> Never tried ndiswrapper - no reason, no wireless.
<6> I've used debian since slink and I finally moved my new webserver to ubuntu because it was easier to use my USB harddrive backup I bought
<4> I started occasional exposure to Debian with Slink as the core of Corel Linux 1.x
<4> But I mainly went down the Redhat/TurboLinux/Mandrake/Mandriva tree
<3> Ironically, Debian/Ubuntu's drivers actually make my onboard sound work.
<3> And the ones provided for XP do not.
<3> Speaking of drivers.
<6> itthere are basically three trees of linux now. debian, redhat and slack
<6> all others are just people hacking and tweaking
<4> kajifox: lol.
<4> kajifox: you *could* try non-Microsoft drivers, of course. I had to do that to get a Voodoo2 card to go.
<3> Viking667; They weren't microsoft drivers
<3> they were drivers provided by Asus.
<3> And I have a Voodoo2 as well :D
<3> In this PC I have an 8, but my old PC has a pair of the Creative 16's. Cost me well over $200 to get both of them
<4> "pair"?
<3> SLI.
<3> Voodoo2's in SLI.
<3> Back when it meant "Scan Line Interleave"
<6> pair? plannng on listening to some old Pink Floyd quadrophonic recordings with that?
<4> you said "pair of the creative 16s"
<4> that's what confused me. I've heard of SLI...
<3> Pair of 16mb Voodoo2's.
<3> The ones that hate modern drivers. >_<
<3> They're useless. They only do what 12mb Voodoo2's do.
<3> But they're nifty.
<4> ahhh. I've got what's SUPPOSED to be 12MB but I've no real way of knowing the difference.
<3> You'll have a 12mb.
<3> It's all to do with the amount of chips.
<4> All I know is: it's got lotsa chips,
<3> If the back and front are covered in 100MHz EDO, it's a 12
<3> if the back is only 1/4 covered in 100MHz EDO, it's an 8
<4> It's more than an 8
<3> Then it's a 12.
<4> I'd have to crack the cover - how do you know if it's a 16?
<3> If it's Creative and has an extra DAC looking chip on the back with heaps and heaps of ram covering the backside of the thing, it's a 16
<3> Only Creative made drivers that used all 16mb
<3> And good luck getting them working these days.
<7> heh
<7> i still have like 5 or 6 of those cards somewhere in a box.
<3> Revenger; Use one. They're the only things that will run early 3D accelerated games properly
<7> they will be gone next trash-day tho.
<3> ... okay, why?
<3> eBay them. People do want Voodoo2's you know.
<7> -EOUTOFSPACE
<7> and time.
<3> Pff. Voodoo's aren't Sun rackmount machines, or NeXT cubes or anything
<3> They're not that big.
<7> nah. that box is filled with old cards. even some EISA ones.
<4> and no, I've not got Creative on it.
<3> Voodoo2's are a hard to find commodity that can still be used, however, and still have use.
<4> mrm.
<3> They don't conflict with newer stuff as they're standalone.
<4> Funnily enough, I can't get Linux to use one if I'm in framebuffer mode
<4> otherwise my machine locks up, solid.
<3> Viking667; I always found it funny that people couldn't understand why they had the monitor feed.
<7> and meaningfule last message, or just hang ?
<4> just hang.
<4> kajifox: hrm? Sorry?
<3> The loopback D15
<4> how do you mean? I know what the loopbacks is for... it's explained clearly enough in the product docs.
<3> So do I.
<3> But normal people don't read product documentation.
<3> They just plug and pray.
<4> ohhh, I got what you mean. They wonder why they've got such a short extension cable for their monitor
<3> Yes.
<3> And throw out their 2D video card.
<4> Geez. I figured it out in about 3.5 seconds.
<3> as did I.
<3> I was about 12 when they were popular
<3> and the amount of times my friends said "I had to put my S3 trio back in! What's wrong?!" was maddening
<4> Linux'll use it as a 2d card happily, apparently. Just don't try using it AND Glide while it's in framebugger mode.
<3> It ran AA and minor ANI-F and mipmap dithering on 2D games, making them look very very special.
<3> I miss when 3D images looked like arcade games straight out of the box.
<4> lol. No WONDER Quake looked no different.
<3> Plus you have games like Viper Racing, which when paired with a Voodoo5 look damn good even today
<3> and on a DX card? arse.
<4> I was expecting to notice a difference, but haven't done, so far. Though there's definitely a difference on Quake 3
<4> Now, if I manage to get a AGP card, I've got a mobo that's got 3 mem slots, 5 PCI slots, a VIA MVP3 chipset, and a home (me!)
<4> I'm hoping its not too much of a step down from my current mobo with Via MVP4 chipset, three flakey memory slots, and a K6-II on board.
<6> I remember playing quake and halfway through the released the openGL driver for my riva128 card. After restarting in openGL, I forgot where I was in the game
<4> lol! THAT good?
<3> I still (fondly) remember being able to play half-life on my P133 notebook without a 3D card
<6> it was petty earthshattering at the time
<3> at an acceptable resolution
<4> Let's put it this way - I've got a Trident Cyberblade/i7, and that's the best vidcard I've got, yet the Voodoo2 seems to outperform it.
<3> Hint; Voodoo were nearly always "ahead of their time" if you like to use that term (I don't)
<3> and Trident have always been far behind :D
<6> yeah I played halflife on my p120 laptop
<3> zez; I overclocked my notebook -- on the Versa 6-series notebooks there's switches on the motherboard :D
<4> I've got half life here - it DEFINITELY looks better and works faster on the Voodoo2 than the AGP Trident.
<0> does anybody here know of a script I can use for iptables to allow networked pc to access the internet?
<4> crazy|one: you don't need a script. Read up on MASQUERADING
<4> Right. I've got to go. *sigh*
<6> crazy: I don't think its an iptables issue. is your linux box the router?
<4> hrm. ip_forward = 0?
<3> Viking667; 3Dfx for life! remember that! :D
<3> That and what country are you in?
<4> kajifox: bleah.
<4> kajifox: New Zealand.
<3> Enzedder!
<3> Cheap shipping to there from here (Aus).
<3> If I get myself another job anytime soon, I'll ship you the old Voodoo3 sitting on my desk.
<4> Sorry, but I want something better than my current setup, but my current setup ... well, at least it works.
<3> 16.
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