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<0> ath, what desktop environment do you use?
<1> ath: Fedora Core 4 is far and away the best distribution for a laptop IMHO
<0> longword, if there was a faster and more flexible package manager :)
<2> why, longworld?
<3> ValeFiona: i've always used windowmaker, because i thought kde or gnome was too slow a couple of years back
<2> i find centos 4.2 being quite nice... despite being a debian fan :)
<3> longword: why would you prefer another distro for a laptop?
<2> ath, try fluxbox, a windowmaker son, as slim & fast, but nicer :)
<0> yeah, cause XFCE is the nicest :-p
<3> mart1: i'll keep that in mind, tnx
<0> is XFCE packaged for fedora core 4?
<4> i've expanded a hardware raid5, but fdisk will not reconize the extra capacity now. can anybody help?
<1> ValeF: yum is fine as a package manager
<1> sco: fdisk can only go by what the driver tells it the capacity is
<1> sco: Check the output of dmesg
<0> longword, if you use the debian package management system for 1-2 weeks you would change your mind
<1> ValeF: I've used apt extensively
<1> ValeF: yum is fine.
<0> its _much_ faster than yum, and much more flexible
<5> yum is fast too
<1> I like apt but it's not powerful enough to replace yum
<1> sco: Bear in mind that most systems will not recognise a change in a block device in runtime
<0> yum is good enough when you setup a system once and keep it at that, and just update
<5> yum is good enough for anything
<1> ValeF: What's wrong with yum in your mind?
<0> Znuff, ****ing up again?
<6> whats the use of the "nameserver
<6> in /etc/resolv.conf ?
<4> longword> what i'm really trying... my /usr partition is LVM, i've expanded the array from raid1 to raid5. and would know like to resize the disk
<1> flu: Comment it out and see what happens
<5> ValeFiona: you insult only when you're out of arguments ?
<5> Or on a regular basis?
<0> longword, when search a package for example, it takes much longer, or when you install a single package
<1> ValeF: Yes it takes longer.
<1> ValeF: Arguably because it's doing more.
<6> longword: alright, if i dont set any name server on the other box, the eth0 will still work?
<1> ValeF: yum is much more advanced than apt
<6> and if i want to do masquerading, do i have to set a nameserver on the other box?
<0> Znuff, its not an insult. its an observation. you added no single fact to what longword sad, but you stand behind anybody with access just for the purpose of ****ing up
<1> ValeF: It can cope with multiple architectures on one machine
<0> longword, why would the majority of users need multiple architectures on one machine?
<5> What I do is not your business.
<1> ValeF: More recent versions of yum are faster too, using an sqlite database to speed things along
<0> Znuff, i know about my business better than you
<1> ValeF: x86_64 with i386 compatibility
<0> longword, i must admit i only know the version packaged for fedora core 4
<1> ValeF: Speed is easier to address than a lack of major functionality
<1> ValeF: And you have to admit yum doesn't lack any of the major functions of apt
<0> longword, when you just want to add a little package and you sit there for 3 minutes cause yum is parsing the entire package list its a bit weird
<0> longword, even worse when you use it on a machine other that one of these 2 GHz boxes
<0> or when you search for a single file in a package
<1> The version in CentOS 4.2 is faster
<0> in my opinion, red hat uses the resources the microsoft style: people buy a new computer every year anyways
<0> and one main philosophy of linux was that a tool does only very few things but that as good as possible
<0> but CentOS 4.2 is missing on my list
<0> maybe i should look at it
<0> longword, do they do own code in CentOS or just copy Red Hat Enterprise?
<1> ValeF: Their whole concept is to accurately clone RHEL
<1> Complete binary compatibility
<0> and red hat didnt try to sue them so far? lol
<1> Damn those long course speed skaters have _impressive_ thighs!
<1> ValeF: Red Hat did request they remove any mention of 'Red Hat' from the web site, in addition to the cleaning they'd already done on the distribution itself
<7> anyone know what the proper config would be for oident on a linux box running iptables? I'm trying to get mIRC to work on an internal windows box, and, as you know, a lot of IRC servers complain about identd not running
<1> !ident
<8> Ah, yes! See http://www.mandrakehelp.com/identd-HOWTO.html to get it running properly. Also see http://www.krnlpanic.com/tutorials/identd.php -or- See rfc1413 for dirty details
<9> dudes
<7> i'm using oidentd with the -m option, along with <IP> <user> <OS> in both oidentd_masq.conf and oidentd.users
<7> ahh. thanks.
<7> more docs!
<10> evening Gaia^
<11> themaxxz BOO!
<10> you dont scare me
<12> hi
<13> longword: remember you told me to strace -p <the tcpserver pid> that runs from qmail-smtpd? I don't know how to interpret the output. Am I supposed to be able to tell which pid or program it is calling?
<12> how i open telnet ?
<12> how i start telnet?
<1> le: Sure, you can tell from the fork() calls
<1> Evening Gaia
<13> fork appears as (fork)
<1> any: Dude. Nobody's done telnet for 30 years.
<13> I mean fork()
<1> le: Yeah, but it returns a number
<11> themaxxz i have a Problem! TOO much blood in me alcohol! , after all, tis a sat night >G<
<11> longword oob
<1> le: The number is the new process
<13> ok ok I see it
<13> let me see what it points to
<1> le: And the first thing that new process tends to do is exec() some other program
<10> *you don't want telnet*
<1> !oob
<1> ladybyte, ooben?
<8> i heard ooben is rushing to bed, because in ~ 10 minutes his dad will be home
<11> 00b ?
<13> longword: it is only calling rblsmtpd as I suspected. How do I know where is it supposed to call maildroprc? Is that supposed to come from qmail-send?
<1> le: I'm not certain
<13> longword: if I strace spamd there are no fork() calls
<1> ladybyte, oob is Out Of Band - referring to an alternate stream of communication. Important for emergency access to a network, often implemented by dialup. Also a means to jump the queue in a TCP transmission
<8> okay, longword
<13> I actually see a (timeout)
<14> Linuxserver (192.168.0.4) <==== winxp <=== people connect to linux server by p*** winxp How ?
<13> longword: select(8, [5 6 7], NULL, [5 6 7], {2, 0}) = 0 (Timeout)
<13> that's the output from strace -p <spamdpid>
<15> somchai: still a windows question basically, so try #windows
<13> there are 2 more lines but I don't want to flood here
<1> le: That's just spamd waiting for something to do
<13> I need a qmail flow map
<1> le: lifewithqmail.com may or may not be of use to you
<1> And no, it's not a coincidence that the title looks suspiciously like 'lifewithcancer'
<13> Let me parse it. It may have an answer.
<13> let me see first vpopmail because -rw-r--r-- 1 vpopmail vchkpw 1276 Aug 22 2004 maildroprc
<1> Hmmm.
<1> MacBook Pro fans have four wire connectors
<11> Gaia^ fans have six however :)
<1> Reve: Whilst I may have a linuxboxen account, it doesn't appear to have my ssh key on it so I can't get in :-(
<16> longword: gimme a sec
<5> linuxboxen?
<8> linuxboxen is, like, THE irc-network. try /server irc5.linuxboxen.org
<5> uh?
<17> darn unet.
<17> darn splits.
<17> ah. i see it works.
<1> !bugs
<10> erp
<11> and HOW come u 3 r stil opped and i gotr booted?
<11> sheesh
<1> Who three op what?
<1> .o
<10> Gaia^, because I am authed with X :)
<11> [21:00:18] * Gaia^ sets mode: +ooo Redragon^ TheGewp themaxxz
<10> longword, she tried a fast one on us
<11> longword when the split went down
<1> I see
<10> it backfired
<10> <-- Gaia^ has quit (Killed (*.undernet.org (overruled by older nick)))
<10> hehe
<11> themaxxz sure looks like it! ur STILL @
<13> longword: I got it
<13> !
<1> Good to hear
<13> the problem was solved by simply adding |maildrop to .qmail-default
<13> that was all
<13> .qmail-default had |/home/vpopmail/bin/vdeliver '' delete
<13> it is done now.
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