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<0> so i tried building 2.6.14 and 2.6.15.1 and tried adding sound directly into the kernel and such but to no avail
<0> 2.6.12 to 2.6.15.1
<0> but it didn't work with 2.6.14 either
<0> what's somewhat kinda weird i guess is that when 2.6.12 boots, alsa gives some sort of error
<0> but it works fine
<0> the other kernels are errorless but sound doesn't come out
<1> as a side note, I don't think a new kernel will fix your clock drift, but it doesn't hurt keeping your kernel up to date
<0> well, i figured maybe it was a kernel option (incorrect hpet or rtc timer option or something?)
<0> and since i had to recompile to attempt to fix it and/or find out, i decided to upgrade, too
<1> probably not. clock drift occurs mostly on smp boxen and no kernel option will fix that and I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow happens on amd64 too
<1> good thing there's ntp to take care of that :)
<0> yeah, i have ntp set to run on every boot and like once a day
<0> ntpdate*
<0> but i've seen it drift quite a bit before
<0> i'm talking losing 3 outta 4 hours
<0> in a 4 hour period
<0> or whatever
<1> my god, that's not what I'd call drift anymore ;)
<0> heh, it's worse after heavy load
<0> and it's weird cuz sometimes it will tick fine for a couple of days
<0> i remember i was rebooting steadily every 3 days for a while to clear it up
<0> asus k8s-mx kinda ****s for linux :\
<1> somehow you'd start to expect something else being waaaay off
<1> ohfsck
<0> i had to modify sis 5513 driver to support dma on it
<0> eventhough it sports a 5513 chipset
<0> sis190 gbit ethernet driver didn't work for like the first 8 months i had the board
<1> hold on a sec, got to revive a box here
<0> and i still have all kinds of timing issues, powernowd doesn't seem to work with frequency scaling too well (freezing/locking system)
<0> sometimes dma shuts off by itself
<0> etc
<0> anyway
<0> probably a good idea, heh
<1> hmpf, why's als have to be so messy :/
<0> als?
<1> err, alsa, even
<0> i dunno
<1> haha, atleast I've ran into your post at kerneltrap
<0> :P
<0> the one with my elite kernel haxory?
<0> my only semi-successful attempt at kernel modification
<1> you mean adding an extra pci id? :P
<1> been there, done that ;)
<0> details details...
<0> it worked, dammit!
<0> :P
<1> but I can safely ***ume that you're using the trident sounddriver?
<0> no, intel-8x0
<1> oh, ewps
<1> um, what soundchip do you have then?
<0> 965L?
<0> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0)
<0> 1 min!
<0> 4:20!!
<1> your clock's off, it says 10:20 here :P
<0> i say it's 4:20, dag-nabbit!@#
<0> kids these days...
<0> no RESPECT
<1> oh, one thing!
<1> with your buidl of the alsa driver, did you get any errors when attempting to play sound, or just no sound?
<0> with the working driver, i get an error :P
<0> with the mods that don't work, no errors
<1> so, on 2.6.15.1 you were able to play, just didn't hear anything
<0> yeah
<1> anyway, good night. with a bit of luck, either viking or I will have an answer when you return ;)
<0> ever watch 'what the bleep do we know?'
<1> hmmm, yeah! yes I did
<1> a friend made me watch it
<0> aww, you're deserting me :((
<0> did you like it?
<1> oh, god no. I thoguht you were heading off
<0> nah, i can toke right here at my desk
<0> :)
<1> well, I only remember bits of it and didn't really mind watching, but I was quite a bit stoned at the moment ;)
<0> in fact, i prefer to
<0> ahh
<0> that's the best time to watch it!
<0> :P
<1> hehehe
<0> remember the part about the study they did in washington d.c.?
<0> with meditating volunteers
<1> you know what thc does to short term memory? *grin*
<2> Anyone seen "Memento"?
<0> memento was ok
<0> but what the bleep do we know is based on fact and is really informative
<1> sinthetek: and it's been quite a while since I've seen it too. I'll have to watch it a second time, possibly a little more sober
<1> sinthetek: um, even that's debatable
<1> sure, bits of facts appear in the movie, but there's also a lot of vague mumbojumbo involved imho
<0> well, apparently they did a study in washington dc and, based on previous studies, it was predicted that like 1000 volunteers could drop the crime rate there by like 25% oevr hte course of the summer
<0> just by meditating together for an hour every day
<2> sinthetek: That's... absurd
<0> the police chief said it would have to snow like 3 feet over the summer for it to work
<2> If you sit in a park, just chilling, how does that stop me from robbing a bank
<1> yup, and if everyone on this planet were to jump all at the same time, it'd make the earth wobble :P
<0> however, by the end of the summer, the crime rate had dropped the predecited amount
<2> ?
<2> sinthetek: I'm not at work today, so if there are no car accidents in the area today I can never go to work again: When I'm home, there are no accidents!
<0> ok, so it is just a coincidence that d.c. had a first ever 25% decrease in crime despite population increase the exact same summer the meditators were doing it?
<1> sinthetek: but what if those volunteers meditating were the actual criminals, wouldn't that explain the dorp in crime?
<0> and all of the other countries it worked in were flukes/coincidences as well?
<1> like, when you're off meditating you can't be robbing banks
<0> that is quite your right
<0> even your duty
<2> I think it's a bit more complicated than that
<0> there were water pattern displays
<2> it might help, tho'... harmonizing energy MIGHT result in less heat-of-the-moment crime, like random violence
<0> taken of water molecules when exposed to thought abstractions and such
<0> they showed up as pretty looking snowflakes when exposed to nice thoughts
<0> but irregular-asymmetrical blobs when exposed to bad ones
<0> for a period of 24hrs*
<2> Hmm... I'm gonna become the worlds first actual super-villan!
<2> *EVIL*
<0> ever hear of the global conciousness project?
<1> hardly makes it empirical proof that scientists'd take
<2> I'm gonna think bad thoughts at cities far away and make their crimerate rise!
<0> and qunatum darwinism/selection
<2> Los Angeles, prepare for another riot! *thinks bad thoughts about Bel Air*
<0> you're right. the possiblity, and evidence, that we might be connected to and perceive and control the world in ways we don't realize is retarded and uninteresting in the least
<0> i apologize for bringing it up or attempting to expose you to any possiblities, facts or evidence that the world might not be quite as you perceived
<0> however, i suggest you research before you ridicule
<2> No, despite me poking fun at it, I acutually belive us all to be connected. I just don't think a summer of meditation can fix everything.
<3> Any of your have experience with Xaraya?
<0> i never said it could. i just mentioned the phenomenon
<2> I'm a Kaey A'an (as if that tells you anything) and firmly belive in life energy and it's balance.
<0> i dunno what that means
<2> Never mind, it's just a religion
<0> my point, though, was that much of the scientific evidence we are gathering these days points more and more towards a connectedness to the world and a level of control that gives us all power to manipulate it in some manner
<2> the important part is that I don't poke fun at you, I poke fun at the idea that a few thousand people meditating is more powerful than a few thousand actually watching the area for crime.
<2> Use the Force, Luke.
<0> it isn't as absurd as you think
<3> sinthetek, isn't it ironic that this hypothesis is stored in the Greek records?
<2> Yeah, sure, we're all the children of Mother Earth, and we all have the metaphysical telephone organ.
<0> :P
<0> according to the global consciousness project, changes in thought patterns can predict large catastrophes as much as 72 hrs before they occur
<2> now THERE I agree.
<2> We know it's going to happen, we just don't know we know.
<2> Like animals picking up ELF waves.
<0> according to quantum physics, our perception of the world around us is recorded by it and also influences future perceptions of it
<0> s/physics/theories
<0> and all molecules exist in many/all places/times at once
<2> Are you familiar with superstring theory?
<0> somewhat. m-theories are too similar for me to keep track of which is whcih
<0> which*
<0> hehe
<2> ...and how does this relate to Linux
<2> ?
<2> :) Continue in private or some other channel, perhaps?
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