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<0> reality: i am asking because i'm wondering if such things can sometimes be problematic or indicative of other problem(s)
<1> sinthetek: it's not usually a problem.
<1> sinthetek: reason is that PCI devices have subdevices
<1> sinthetek: so eg your video card, if it has 2 heads, has 2 PCI subdevices... 0.0 and 0.1
<1> sinthetek: this is actually to fool Windows, humorously enough. the 2nd device doesn't actually do anything.
<0> heh
<0> well i was wondering because this wireless card mysteriously started working again somehow
<0> i was getting ready to go looking through driver source but then i saw the interface reappeared again after a reboot
<0> and then i noticed that lspci was no longer showing the additional device
<0> it was detecting the card as an ethernet device and a serial device
<1> eh?
<1> ok, that's messed.
<1> but...
<1> how's this sound: Bluetooth.
<0> now magically it is only showing as an ethernet device and the wireless interface showed up again
<0> i don't think bluetooth has enough range :P
<2> oy!
<3> insmod: why not try joining the army in iraq ans see if that quotes applies
<3> lols
<4> Kuto: ?
<5> dont get started on politics
<6> hi..how can i use my usb adsl modem on Knoppix 5.0.Can someone help me ?
<3> naaah
<3> CyberZeus: scrap it
<3> you need to tweak the kernel to do that to work
<6> and i need ethernet modem so ?
<7> CyberZeus: an ethernet modem is an instant fix. Shazam - it works.
<8> Only getting a new modem costs a whole lot more than a few minutes fiddling with the kernel to get an usb modem going
<8> Hehehe
<8> You're just jealous :P
<8> CyberZeus: Depending on the make and model of your modem, it might be fairly easy to get working or it might not be supported at all. Tried googling for a solution yet?
<6> yes but i couldn't find a solution
<1> Coma: you mean a keyboard?
<6> i am using zoom 5510 and knoppix finds my ethernet but no ethernet on modem.
<8> bronaugh: With a scrollball :)
<1> ooo
<1> I wish to nihilate a nihilist
<8> CyberZeus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194237
<1> ugh.
<1> ppp
<8> Ick, don't mention ppp
<1> howto does.
<8> usb modems are nearly as evil as ppp ;)
<6> i am from Turkey and i am using 512/128 with 3 GB quota/month
<6> that's the cheapiest connection :)
<1> that's not too bad.
<8> Bah, traffic quotas ought to be banned
<6> only quota is bad.and i downloaded Turkix but my hdd is SATA and Turkix didn't work on it :S
<8> CyberZeus: Maybe future versions will, if the manage to catch up on hardware support
<8> Also depends on what distro it's based on
<1> you could try ubuntu instead?
<9> someone able to spoonfeed me into getting my ATI card to work in Mandriva?
<1> profXavier: which card?
<1> and which mandriva release?
<9> the latest Mandriva
<9> ATI Radeon X850
<1> should work.
<9> thats really easy to say
<9> not much help really though
<1> so how does it not work?
<10> Really quick question - when did uname first turn up?
<8> The command?
<9> i have a feeling already this convo isnt going to go anywhere
<10> yuh.
<8> Um
<9> anyone else?
<1> Viking667: at least since System V R 3
<10> because it's not in Unix v7, and I don't have a copy of System III /IV to hand
<10> I'm wondering if it was a program brought in by BSD.
<1> profXavier: I have a feeling you want a quick fix.
<8> profXavier: If you actually want to be spoonfed, you're asking the wrong people :P
<9> ok, where can I get spoon feed then
<1> profXavier: a psych ward.
<10> profXavier: lol. you don.t'
<8> lol
<9> come on
<9> toss me a bone here
<8> profXavier: Perhaps the good folks in #mandriva do, but I doubt it
<9> mandriva is asleep
<8> profXavier: How about you actually trying to follow ati's documentation, and if something goes wrong, then come whining here?
<1> profXavier: well, first I'd like to know what the symptoms are...
<1> profXavier: you're acting like a patient who comes to the doctor and wants pills to solve a problem, before the doctor examines the patient.
<9> i had a brand new install of Mandriva
<9> the video res was crap
<9> since I chose some crap card
<9> when I did actual get into KDE, I installed the ATI driver
<9> restarted the system, now I just get a command line
<9> not able to get into KDE
<9> now I just tried to startx, and had a bunch of errors
<8> Ok, so X fails to start due to the new driver
<9> right
<8> If you run "startx" from the commandline, what does it throw at you?
<9> so ill just reinstall the OS, which is easiest, but then how can I find my card during install/setup my video to atleast work a bit?
<9> I am not willing to type it all out
<9> one or some of the lib are not loaded I guess
<8> Ok, this isn't going anywhere
<9> exactly
<9> so when I do a new install, what should I be looking for in a video card?
<9> it doesnt list my exact card
<8> Pick the generic vesa driver or the ati.... something
<9> yeah, I tried the vesa
<9> messed with my colors
<9> the ati didnt do anything, so I went with the raseon
<9> radeon*
<9> but my display was weird, yet fine on the test
<10> time I went, anyhow.
<8> Night, Viking
<8> profXavier: Looks like the ordinary ati driver shipping with X supports radeons too, only not accelerated
<9> I tried every ATI manufactured driver there was on the list
<8> Err, what list? There's only one ati driver
<9> well I dont really have it in front of me
<1> hell.
<8> Or is this some of mandriva's "userfriendliness"
<9> but I had a manufactures list and another
<1> my net connection just went down for like 7 minutes for no f'in reason.
<9> in the manu, the ATI had many cards listed, I tested them all
<1> Coma: no, ati should work.
<8> bronaugh: A polarbear gnawed at the cable :)
<9> in the other list, it went to on default, I seen ATI, vesa, radeon, etc...
<1> I'm not sure what the story is with PCI express.
<9> so, off the top of your head, there isnt any ideas?
<9> do I need to install more lib files?
<1> well, you're going to need to look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<9> or I guess you cannot tell me a thing without the error from startx...
<9> btw, I have no editor to use...
<1> I would suggest at least for now that you change the driver to vesa so you can get into X and actually debug this online, rather than rebooting to debug.
<9> so I am hooped
<1> you have vi.
<1> learn to use it.
<9> dont know how to use it
<9> thanks though
<1> pretty easy.
<1> vi <file>
<1> hit i
<9> pico/nano is easy
<1> to insert text
<1> hit x to delete the character under the cursor
<1> hit dd to delete the line you're on
<8> Was gonna say, use some other editor that you're actually conforable with
<9> i love it when ppl simplify difficult tasks in linux
<9> makes me laugh
<1> hit <esc> when you've hit i to get back to command mode.
<9> im out
<9> lata
<8> Bah, everything is simple
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