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<0> what was the problem with the repos ?
<1> Right, but now I don't have to go look a bunch of stuff up and edit my repository list if I want to install for e.g. mplayer?
<1> Or do you still have to do that...?
<0> i added some extra repos.
<1> I used to use debian/unstable a lot, and I still like it, I just like the way Gentoo runs better...
<0> it didn't come with them.
<0> Delwin: it's probably because all is made from source.
<1> exactly ;)
<0> but gentoo is very unstable if one package ( ex. bzip2 ) is b0rked
<0> the portage system went crazy.
<1> ...how the f do you break that though?!
<0> i dropped gentoo and switched to ubuntu.
<0> Delwin: i was playing.
<1> lol
<1> See, to each his own.
<0> still, i would like to try slackware.
<1> !slackware
<2> i'm using fedora for 6 months now, and i'm not dual booting
<3> it has been said that slackware is what we used to use before we had real distributions, or has 4,999 users, now that zatmac uses debian, or for the terminally masochistic, or if i want a copy of PV's harddrive, i ask him myself. "Slackware, because Linux is only free if you DON'T VALUE YOUR TIME", or so "secure" that you can't even do your work with it.
<4> I might try out debian and/or gentoo if I ever get around to setting up a desktop..
<1> ;)
<0> i know i know.
<4> but I like centos for my servers
<1> Fiver just use a vm or usermode to play around with it ;)
<4> synaptic: I've heard arch is nice too, from slackware fans
<1> LFS > slackware, and it's easier to maintain (which is saying a lot)
<4> Delwin: yeah, I was thinking I might get around to setting up a box with the new free vmware at home and try several things, including *bsd
<5> arch?
<4> arch linux
<4> based on slackware
<1> Fiver there ya go.
<1> Free vmware?
<4> Delwin: that's what I've heard
<1> I just use qemu...
<1> eh, w/e
<4> yeah, maybe I should check out qemu
<0> i like the LFS description.
<1> The current qemu is actually pretty usable
<1> versions before like, 0.7 or so were really slow...
<1> 'mornin Reve
<6> Delwin.
<1> Been a minute.
<6> an hour, rather.
<1> A few even :)
<1> I'm here now and again, but it seems we very rarely cross schedules.
<6> hehe :>
<6> brb, wife calls.
<1> See what happens? :P
<0> uhm, seems like LFS is hard to maintain.
<1> That's why I said that former statement says a lot about slackware ;)
<0> :)
<0> guess i'm sticking with ubuntu.
<1> IMO it would be nice if someone would write a -proper- GUI (or even curses) frontend to portage though.
<1> There's porthole, but unless you f with it a *lot* it doesn't really do things properly...
<7> is there any way to check which options courier was built with when its been installed with yast2 ?
<8> How can i make it when i put in a cd to my cd rom to automount?
<9> paranomos, add your cd driver in /etc/fstab
<10> hi ppl
<8> thx
<11> hi guys tell me pls what version of linux is the best FC4 Or MAndrake 10.1 Official ??
<12> Someone is getting drones to join Undernet. The master channel is #cri5ti, and I'm guessing that makes Cri5ti the drone master. The drone file is here: http://www.pozeana.go.ro/eu.jpg.removethispart.exe and it has a couple of users.undernet.org hosts listed as "Users". It is, ofcourse, just a scriptkiddie mIRC "hack". That's actually what makes it fun, since mIRC runs in Wine! :D YAAY!
<12> (I got an email about a "greeting card")
<12> M|GueLL_: Ubuntu
<11> Demonen: ??
<12> M|GueLL_: UbuntuLinux is better than FC4 and Mandrake put together, IMO
<11> thanks Demonen
<13> Demonen, and on that note: mIRC version 6.17 was released a few days ago :-p
<14> lol
<14> I just had a High Fee client on the line
<13> another thing that is interesting about these script kiddies - quite a few of those hang out on #irc-junkie.org and when i told Asmo (and undernet oper) that he banned me :)
<14> he just payed HP like 40 Nok to show me what his scanner sounds like
<13> RexyWork{D}, how much euro is 40 Nok?
<14> let me see...
<14> about 4,9 euro
<13> LadyByte, what is 40 nok in euro
<3> I think you lost me on that one, ValeFiona
<13> oh
<15> what is a nok?
<14> Norwegian Kroner
<13> norwegian krones
<7> umm... I downloaded the source for courier-imap, and when running ./configure, the script continously loops until I kill it.. anybody seen this before ?
<15> 4.9696 euro
<16> i need to access the campus 802.11 hotspot, and i don't want to mess with ndiswrappers or cardbus drivers. so here's the plan... plug in computers to wireless router, wireless router reaches hotspot. can it work? ethernet-to-wlan bridge. wireless acess point used in reverse. can it be done?
<14> ValeFiona: He called this High Fee Line to get help to get his scanner working.. costing close to an euro per minute.. and when I asked him to scan a testpage to tell me the error, it turns out the scanner works just fine.. ;)
<13> some days ago i wanted to quit my web hosting contract. you have to enter data into their web interface and then get a secret p***word from a hotline by phone. the hotline was perm busy so i wrote a letter. now i phoned them and asked why i got no acknowledgement. at first i had to talk to a phone computer and go through menues, and then i had to listen to stupid pop songs for 0,99 euro a minute
<13> does HP do such dirty tricks also to make money?
<14> Dunno
<14> Im just at the phone.. :)
<15> normally i just stop paying and they cut it off with no strings attached
<14> on our line there is no menu
<14> oy! My day is over!
<14> *runs away from work*
<13> paultwang, i did that 2 years ago with another contract and the second reminder was charged with 15 euro from the company and 20 euro from my bank because of their failed attempt to charge me
<15> that's why i don't use bank account as a method of payment
<13> credit card payment is evil
<15> gtg
<16> i need to access the campus 802.11 hotspot, and i don't want to mess with ndiswrappers or cardbus drivers. so here's the plan... plug in computers to wireless router, wireless router reaches hotspot. can it work? ethernet-to-wlan bridge. wireless acess point used in reverse. can it be done?
<17> perlgeek, possible in theory, difficult in practice
<17> you'd have to change the mode of the access point, probably not a feature its firmware supports
<16> Redb3ard, from infrastructure to ad-hoc??
<17> so, if its one of those that you can compile your own linux for, you can do that, and force it out of access point mode, or whatever the name is, but thats about it
<17> yeh
<17> if it supports those, i think thats about all you need to do, and yes, that will work
<17> which wifi card do you have though
<17> some are really painless
<17> my atheros card was simpler than i could have hoped for, native driver and not ndiswrapper crap
<16> yikes... wifi card? i have 2 cardbus pccards that i can't use because laptop-pc is breaking down
<16> besides, one of them never worked anyway
<18> Hello
<18> I have a harddrive which has a /dev directory on it. I am wanting to wipe everything off of the drive. Would the best way to do that be rm -rf * or mkfs ?
<18> What I don't want to happen is it see that /dev directory and then decide to do /dev/hda
<18> =P
<18> Hey, I don't know if it can happen, so I risk a potentially dumb question
<13> when you just want to get rid of the contents and re-use the drive, you can just "rm". when you want to secure erase the drive to give it to somebody else you should use a special tool
<18> Nah, nothing secure
<18> Just use it for storage space
<13> or do you fear the /dev on the wrong hdd could be used? that does not happen
<18> Well, it was the primary drive in another comp which I gutted
<18> I didn't want to recreate the fs
<13> devfs is in memory
<18> ok
<4> just don't confuse drives and directories when you rm
<18> fiver: yea
<4> I would probably be more inclined to mkfs
<4> but to each his own on that
<19> yo
<19> i have a slackware box and a mandrake box, connected with a cross-over wire
<19> how do i get the connection to work now?
<4> you have to configure both NICs with IP addresses in the same subnet
<19> ok, and is there a command i can run so it prompts me some configs?
<4> probably.. but that's going to vary depending on the distro
<4> I don't know what the ones for mdk and slack are. you could try netconfig
<19> i use mandrake 9.2 on this box and the other box uses slackware 8.1
<19> kk
<20> flush: cross over wire?
<19> yea
<20> I could ask again, but that doesn't make it any more useful.
<20> cross over wire is quite vague.
<19> hhrm...
<19> a cross-over wire is a ethernet wire with the orange and green pairs inverted
<20> it could be serial, parallel, usb, firewire, ethernet and fishing wire.
<19> its a ethercable, see it like that
<19> but its not
<20> so we're talking ethernet. ifconfig will suffice.
<19> negative it doesnt show eth0
<20> it will, make it so.
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