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<0> valefiona, im starting to think that you should have a raid mirror setup, with a spare in the closet
<1> lol
<0> seriously
<1> for a raid system i can buy an entire middle cl*** computer
<0> whats a cheap drive nowdays, $60 even without rebate?
<0> doesnt have to be fancy
<0> software raid will do the trick, and you've already got 2 ide channels on most machines
<0> only the cost of the drives
<1> software does not help when you have no hdd for 7 weeks :)
<1> software raid
<0> this would...
<0> because its mirror, you still have it on one drive
<0> meanwhile, take the spare out of the closet, and plug it in to rebuild
<0> when the other returns, stick it in the closet
<1> oh, right. i forgot that i am rich and have spare drives in my closet :)
<0> of course, you spend $180 on hard drives, instead of $60
<0> im not rich either, but im considering doing that
<0> too damn painful otherwise
<2> (back - got to love tech support jobs ;))
<2> time to kick some hdd *** ;)
<3> Even with good backups, you lose a day's work and a day putting your PC back together again, and all the stuff you forgot to backup (there's always something)
<1> true
<2> I knew it was too good to be true to inherit an AMD 1.3 Duron ;)
<2> (for $0)
<3> What's nice though is you don't have to RAID everything when you do it in software
<1> on the other side i like doing new installs :D
<0> im just saying
<0> 10 years ago, i thought nothing of spending $300 on a 3 gig drive, i think it was
<0> $180, with a little more reliability is not such a bad deal
<0> she'd not be waiting weeks to use her computer again
<1> thats true
<3> A $180 drive will be more painful when, not if, it fails
<0> its something to consider anyway
<0> $180 for 3 cheap drives
<4> damn
<1> but when you buy a computer and need to invest in replacement hardware just cause the vendor does a slobby job when its product fails... thats sad
<0> 2 for mirror raid, and a third stuck in the closet
<0> it is sad, but its inevitable
<1> come on, 2 weeks is long enough to have a quick check and ship back a new hdd. they dont repair the drives these days anyways, do they?
<0> no, havent since the late 70s
<0> they're garbage
<0> you can't even salvage the circuit board off the things, since each is programmed specific to those platters
<5> There's a time command that might be better for that
<1> is there a vacuum inside the hdd that could cause problems when i open a hdd?
<2> tried for time, but not on rescue
<0> no, no vacuum
<0> but there's clean air in it
<2> nothing on dmesg yet
<0> opening one up outside a cleanroom environment isnt recommended, dust will eventually get in, it will eventually fail
<1> so i pop my broken 3GB drive open. i am curious whats in there :D
<3> Gah!
<2> vale: nice big magnet ;)
<3> Feckin ebay.
<0> if you've never seen one, and it is dead, open one up
<0> they're simpler than they should be
<0> kinda neat
<3> Seller an active member since 1999
<2> hdd magnets are the best to play with.. esp around monitors
<0> sad that our storage still relies on some of the principles of a vinyl turntable
<3> And he waits until _I_ buy something before he decides to be evil and close his account
<2> ;)
<0> longword, what'd he cheat you out of?
<2> longsword: I just signed up for ebay *paranoid look*
<4> longword whats a good running temp for a cpu?
<1> longword :-( what did you aim to buy?
<3> REdr: These days 60C is about when I start to get worried
<3> Redr: Not really worried mind
<3> Redr: You know that kind of "China's gonna be the preeminent economic superpower some day" type worried
<3> Redr: 65C is when I'd actually do something about it
<3> ValeF: Pwerbook motherboard
<5> If you buy a PowerBook you'll get one for free
<5> sorry, that was lame
<6> *chuckles
<3> I did.
<3> And then it broke.
<3> Three years later.
<7> I just had to send my Powerbook in for repairs.
<7> Found a nice place.
<7> www.macservice.com
<5> I was stupid and just bought a Powerbook... just to have the Macbook Pros come out right after
<7> They installed a SuperDrive for $275 to replace my broken combo drive.
<3> Yeah but I know this thing needs a new logic board, and there's no getting away from the cost of them - they retail for no less than $400
<3> zrunn: You did know right?
<4> well i'm in bios atm and its at 52c for cpu, 32c for mb
<5> yeah but they said the G4 was an awesome CPU anyway and faster than the Centrinos and etc etc
<7> http://www.macservice.com/logicboards.cfm $295
<3> zrunn: And the best of the last generation is decent
<5> yeah I don't mind it
<4> heat sink barely warm to the touch, i think its that crappy aluminum heat sink
<3> NDP: Still double what I'd spend I think
<7> longword: You mean what you want to spend or what you can actually get somewhere else?
<3> NDP: Probably not my model too
<7> longword: They cover all iBooks and Powerbooks.
<4> errrggg pisses me off its that hot and i'm just in the bios
<3> Redr: 52C is cool for a modern CPU
<4> while its doint nothing?
<3> Redr: BIOS is actually a good way to heat up a CPU
<4> ah
<3> Redr: Not the /best/ way, but a fairly good way.
<4> well doom3 pushes it over 70c hehe
<3> OK, 70C is outside the comfort zone.
<4> yea i dont know why its getting that hot, i have plenty of fans and a well established flow thru the case
<3> Arctic Silver?
<4> nope dont have any of that atm
<4> silicone based
<3> Better than nothing I guess
<5> ^Satyr^: did your test finish?
<3> Was there a thermal pad attached to the heatsink?
<3> Did you remove that?
<4> and zync oxide
<4> nope
<4> err there was the junky one that came with it from amd
<4> cleaned it all off and went to this stuff cause it transfers better than the junk from amd
<3> Good, good
<4> i'm just gonna have to go get a copper heat sink later i think
<4> its funny doom3 didn't seem to overheat it but RoE expansion does
<4> i played thru lost coast no problem but that isn't very long
<8> anyone here using a 3ware Escalade 8006?
<3> BN: 7006
<8> looking for a sata raid card for use on a debian mta
<8> cdw has the 8006 for $155 figured that might work
<3> 3Ware cards are a pretty safe bet
<8> want pretty much out of the box seamless integration.
<4> longword i did some fancier stuff with my firewall to break up the routing :)
<3> Such as?
<4> had to create a custom table so I could make sure that 2 different subnets went thru isdn instead of sat on port 80
<4> since iptables doesn't support that kind of entry
<4> i've got port 80 going to custom table
<4> once in that table if it matches one of the designate ip subnets it gets forwarded to ACCEPT if not then it sets the mark that causes it to be routed thru sat
<8> ok according to this the 8006 shows up as a scsi controller
<4> most sata controllers do BlackNet
<8> cept the promise crap
<4> anymore scsi to linux basically means not ide
<4> was it a raid controller or a straight controller?
<8> raid controller
<4> it was that onboard promise controller wasnt it? had one of those that did same thing here
<8> add in
<8> listed as ataraid or somethign like that
<9> hrmmm
<9> i just loaded openoffice 2.0 .tar.gz and its like thers a RPM folder with few packages named "core04, 05.."
<9> how do i install it? the readme says n-o-t-h-i-n-g
<4> not a clue, never messed with open office before
<2> 8 mins on dd - looks good
<1> flush, why dont you use your package manager?
<9> it will manage all the .rpm packages by itself?
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