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<0> yeh i think so
<1> its common
<1> bsd is alot more in depth than linux
<0> too late now i'm satisfied
<1> but dont get me wrong i dont consider either better than the other
<1> they both have there place
<1> which is why me and the bsd zealots differ
<0> in depth how?
<1> in depth as in, the control, the way it runs, everything
<1> you'd have to see it to understand
<1> i didnt even realize that freebsd-6.0-release was out
<1> nice
<1> ArmOrAttAk if you like slack, you'd like bsd, but you'd have to get used to it, its alot different, the only thing thats the same is X, other than that, you have the ports system etc
<2> if you like slack, you're wrong ;)
<0> but they're still similar aren't they?
<1> meaning?
<1> look and feel wise, yea
<2> meaning I dislike slackware and am also a troll ;)
<1> but the actual core of it, is different
<1> i havent seen slack since slack 96
<2> darkn3ss_: hasn't changed much
<2> still no package management
<1> pkg mgmt doesnt make a distro any better
<2> hah
<1> thats just convienience
<2> yes it does.
<2> darkn3ss_: convenience makes a distro better.
<1> that has actually nothing to do with the dist itself
<1> heh
<1> that makes life better
<1> not the distro
<1> i'm basing distro on security, ease of use etc
<1> then again
<1> ease of use
<1> pkg mgmt
<1> go hand in hand
<1> so i'll just shut up now
<1> ;)
<2> and security/package management
<1> i love the bsd ports system
<1> nothing will ever beat that
<1> gentoo tried like hell
<1> but not even close
<1> brb
<2> since the easier packages are to track and upgrade, the more likely people are to know what's insecure and the easier it will be to find and upgrade
<2> darkn3ss_: oh, I never really liked it
<1> are you serious?
<2> yes
<1> how can you not like the bsd ports tree
<2> I much prefer binary packages
<2> more convenient ;)
<1> ***** way out :D
<1> heh
<1> here
<2> hah
<1> http://darkn3ss.perl-dev.net/images/pics/6.jpg
<1> then you'll understand
<1> ;)
<2> like typing "portinstall foo" is any harder than typing "aptitude install foo"
<1> lol
<2> just takes a lot longer ;)
<1> portinstall foo is not bsd
<1> cd /usr/ports/*/foo && make install
<1> thats bsd
<1> :D
<2> If you're sane enough to have freebsd's portutils installed, it is :)
<1> naw
<1> i do it the old fashioned way
<1> :D
<2> still, hardly a challenge :P
<1> when you start on 3.5.1, you tend to stick to old ways
<1> did you go see the link?
<2> not yet
<1> brb smoke break
<2> heh heh, nice
<3> My laptop has a wireless interface built in, but when i boot up knoppix live cd, it cant detect it, lspci shows it as a Broadcom Corporation: unknown device 4318 (rev 02) any idea how to install it anyone?
<1> LordBoBCUP: just a suggestion, google it, i really know nothing about wireless, but i'm sure google will have smoething about it
<4> j0
<2> j0 br0naugh
<4> sup stegster?
<2> I am hacking on nevow
<2> yourself?
<4> nevow? aka woven backwards?
<4> I should be reading my textbooks.
<2> ahh, you've used woven?
<4> but of course I'm not.
<4> nah, I haven't. what's it do?
<2> oh, nevow's a web framework built ontop of twisted
<4> ah, Python then.
<2> da ;)
<4> yeah, acquaintance of mine is trying to convince me of Ruby's superiority as a language P
<4> :P
<2> I've heard it's nice :P
<2> although nobody's convinced me of it being significantly nicer than python
<2> too much punctuation
<4> it has built in =~
<4> that is an advantage.
<5> perl .....
<2> no, it shows a dodgy attitude :P
<4> yeah, but ruby doesn't look like someone mashed the number keys and shift key :P
<4> steg: pfft, regular expressions are uberuseful.
<2> bronaugh: they are over-used
<4> I don't think so.
<2> bronaugh: and besides, you lose almost nothing by having it in a convenient library module
<2> and you gain simplicity
<4> dude. regular expressions remove a lot of the repetitive processing that makes things a major PITA.
<2> it depends what you are doing.
<2> If you are processing text files, yes, they are useful.
<2> If you are dealing with validating input, they're useful to a point.
<4> $str =~ s/<%([^%]*)%>/(defined($hash->{$1})?$hash->{$1}:"")/egs;
<4> there's my 1 line template engine.
<4> wooOOoo.
<2> I bet if I wasn't tired I could break it ;)
<5> bron did you see the beer program?
<4> redragon: no.
<2> anyway, my template engine in python:
<5> oh oh let me find it
<2> htmlstr % arg_dict
<4> yeah, you're using some library func.
<2> no
<2> I'm using an operator and string interpolation
<4> uhh, then they're overloading the modulus operator for a perverse purpose?
<2> % isn't the modulus operator when used with strings ;)
<2> it is the interpolation operator
<5> bron http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-perl-737.html
<4> steg: you're specifying that it should replace the words in the dictionary with the alternates specified?
<4> redragon: damn, like aalib only better :)
<2> >>> arg_dict = {'foo': 'hello', 'bar': 42}
<2> >>> 'Foo is: %(foo)s, Bar is: %(bar)i' % arg_dict
<2> 'Foo is: hello, Bar is: 42'
<5> and it works bron, its soooo cool
<4> steg: useful
<4> steg: now what if you want a custom format
<2> bronaugh: a custom format?
<4> for whatever reason.
<4> steg: yeah, like say I wanted to migrate my existing templates in Perl to some Python code.
<4> they use <%stufftoreplace%>
<2> Oh. Then I guess you use a regexp. ;)
<4> and how clean and easy is that in python?
<2> import re; re.<whatever>
<2> it's not particularly less convenient than perl
<4> yeah. so doing something like I did above, what would that look like?
<2> bronaugh: that looked like line noise to me.
<5> the fanciest thing i've done in perl for variables/arrays is in my db updater
<2> however
<4> steg: it basically does what your clever string interpolation stuff does.
<4> $hash is used as a dictionary
<2> bronaugh: the point about the string interpolation is it's not clever
<2> it's very simple.
<2> REs are clever.
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