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<0> reality, its all working perfect :)
<1> i can't figure out how to make esd work right :\
<1> ok, i have a system where the soundcard apparently died, and another system right beside of it
<1> i want to just stream the audio over the network to the system with the working soundcard and plug my speakers into it
<1> but i cant seem to figure how to make esd do so
<1> any suggestions?
<2> muse or liveice?
<1> never used or heard of those
<1> are they daemons?
<2> streamers
<1> i'd prefer something i can configure to start at boot
<1> and play everything from my desktop
<1> i mostly need it to watch movies
<1> the system with the soundcard is really slow and has no monitor, heh
<1> otherwise i could just copy media to it and use it directly
<3> buy a new soundcard :P



<1> i could probably use arts but i'm fairly certain it will load a bunch of kde crap and cause too much overhead, especially for the slow system :\
<1> adikt: if only i could... *sigh*
<2> what's an sblive! going for now? like $10?
<3> hell, swap the cards over even
<1> i don't have $10
<1> and it probably would cost more here
<1> i live in a small town with like 2 computer shops, everything is inflated in both of them
<1> adikt: sound in both systems is onboard
<4> how do I install/get nano?
<1> the system i'm wanting to play sound with is my old laptop with broken display & keyboard that i use for a db server
<5> Judge--: on someone else's system? Forget it. Use what they have.
<5> Judge--: try pico or mcedit
<4> why Viking667?
<4> is it that hard?
<2> hi viking
<5> hello kodon
<2> ...or vi, vim, elvis, joe, emacs, etc...
<1> don't forget ed!!
<2> sinthetek: fairly sure liveice and ice will run as daemon at boot. not so sure if any of the streamers will work without an operable card/chip.
<6> is there a way to make vsftpd send in-progress uploads to a temp dir and only move them to the original target once they are complete?
<7> sinthetek: forget watching movies , there is noticable lag with sound daemon (and thus used in network)
<6> couldn't find anything about that in the manpage, but i'm hoping
<5> Judge--: you're on someone else's system. You can't reasonably expect them to add packages unless they know you well.
<7> in short , you play something on one computer, using the ESD output plugin or something
<4> Viking667 They know me
<7> that output should be configured to stream to the esd server on the other box
<4> Viking667 it's a machine of my closet friend.. it's a dedicated to my network
<5> Then either get them to add it, or use pico instead. pico is like nano
<5> or you could try mcedit. That's simple
<2> i thought nano was like pico
<4> I tryed apt-get install nano, but got: E: Couldn't find package nano
<4> already updated apt-get
<4> hehee kodon
<5> kodon: it IS like pico.
<5> That's why I suggested using pico.
<5> Judge--: did you try "pico" ?
<5> i.e. bash$ pico
<4> not installed
<5> yeesh
<3> vi :D
<5> joe?
<3> vi is almost always installed
<8> vi is always there ^_^
<3> and always fun to learn ;)
<9> nano
<10> aha, restrict yourself to plain vi
<3> Redragon, thats not there, hence the alternatives
<10> cause you might sometime come across middle age systems ;)
<9> ah
<5> adikt: yeah, but it's almost impossible for n00bs to get their head around
<10> wise choice :)
<9> apt-get install nano hehe
<5> I like vim in preference.
<3> Viking667, gotta learn it at some stage :)
<5> Redragon: he can't.
<9> oh
<3> Redragon, you gotta read backscroll a bit :P
<5> adikt: and so I have. But I still prefer vim
<2> tell them to run the tutor
<9> well guess he is stuck with vi then :)
<5> kodon: problem isn't the tutor, it's the retaining that information.



<9> most distro install vi by default
<3> Viking667, these days vi is usually symlinked to vim anyway
<9> of course most install nano by default too....
<5> Took me a good wee while before stuff started sticking.
<5> adikt: not on some systems I use.
<9> i know what i need to know on vim
<3> Redragon, this is RH9 or something equally old & stupid
<5> yeah.
<9> i for insert dd for delete line esc for escape, :x to exit and write changes
<2> vi is still elvis here
<9> ewww burn it, its an evil bewitched box ....
<3> took me _forever_ to learn vi, cos i never knew about :tutorial lol
<9> its possessed :)
<9> oh there is a :tutorial ?
<3> yeah
<9> maybe i'll check it out sometime :)
<3> which is exactly why theres no excuse for people not being able to use/learn it
<2> `vimtutor`
<9> dont use vi that much, only when i gotta
<5> oooo yeah.
<3> its useful to know tho
<3> cos there always comes a time when you *have* to use it
<9> at least the basics, never know when you'll run into a machine that only has vi on it
<5> Redragon: the main difference I find so far, is that vi doesn't have multiple undo, it doesn't have a whole lotta stuff, but that's the main one for me.
<3> hrmm
<9> dont buy cheap media, it aint worth it
<5> adikt: will your drive WRITE +R ?
<3> its verbatim media, so not too cheap
<3> just on sale
<9> unless your short on coasters
<3> Viking667, yeah it does
<9> well sale is always good
<9> i think my media is all memorex
<2> terrible coasters at that
<9> dvd, cdr, cdr mini, and another container of cdr
<3> i buy whatever is on sale usually lol
<9> i need some printable minis
<3> imation/verbatim usually
<3> since those are the most common brands here
<9> and someone to build me a bootable demo :)
<3> but hrmm, half price DVD media .. thats really tempting
<5> adikt: go take a look at Whitcoulls. They're selling media cheap.
<5> i.e. two tens for $20
<3> Viking667, $17.95/25pk?
<3> heh
<3> that is pretty cheap tho
<9> Viking667 wants to build me a bootable demo ....
<5> mrm. That's better.
<3> usually i just buy mine at dse
<5> Redragon: sorry?
<5> bootable demo of ... what, exactly?
<9> hehe
<9> i need make a bootable demo cd of gnuhh
<5> I get along okay with SKC cds. DSE dvds ... yeah.
<9> but that means a few things have to be writable
<9> need a working mysql db, a place to create user accounts, things like that
<5> One DVD-RW's going "brown" on me already.
<3> hrmm, i guess ill grab a couple of spindles, been burning lots lately
<5> lol. No point in asking me then. Only hosting that I've got is at my ISP.
<9> i dont need hosting :)
<9> i need a bootable demo, something to give away and shows and such
<9> but i've never done anything like that before
<9> especially with the requirements i'd have
<5> heh. Bolt it on to the back of Ubuntu? Strip out other stuff, build what you want then.
<9> things like /var/lib/mysql has to be writable, /home has to be writable, ect ect, to demonstrate all the functions of gnuhh on 1 cd
<3> hrmm, so you need it or a RW mini?
<3> so/or/on/
<3> right, im going back to bed
<9> hehe
<3> >_<
<9> i was just gonna p*** around install cds but someone said a bootable demo would be better, i agree :)
<11> what i should install with yum ? i need tcl


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