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<BlackNet> Kuto some are better than others
<T`aZ> Coma: often en entire isp range is blacklisted, you can do anything about that
<Kuto> well you cant monitor domains more than 1000 and suddenly one of the domains is reported in that hotlist
<Coma> T`aZ: It's mostly dynip blocks that get listed, or indeed entire subnets of isps that have been proven to be spammer friendly
<Coma> More than once isps have been forced to their knees for their conduct
<T`aZ> still, it's not your fault if your ip is blacklisted
<Coma> Partially it is, if you sign up with a known, no good isp ;)
<Coma> It's like signing up with aohell and getting laughed at. WTF do you expect?
<T`aZ> no, 99% of the time, you dont have the choice for the isp
<Kuto> i saw somebody doing nasty work, modifying one spam email and replace the email name with a non spam domain and reports to spamhouse several times
<Kuto> and once blocklisted, this stupid brat just laughing for his stupidy
<T`aZ> rbl are far worse than spam, imho
<Kuto> spamhouse is evil
<T`aZ> in the end, it'zs the users who are screwed
<Coma> They're a necessary evil
<Kuto> T`aZ: exactly
<Coma> Without RBLs available, I'd probably lose my sanity
<T`aZ> i prefere to receive 200smaps a day + the mail my friend sent , than none at all
<T`aZ> hell, i receive 200 spams a day :p
<Coma> T`aZ: Good thing there's choice then
<T`aZ> Coma: no , there is no choice, that's the problem
<T`aZ> Coma: if you are admin of XXX domain, and i'm in one the the blacklist, i cant send mail to your users, and cant to anything abotu that
<Coma> Sure there is. I explicitly chose to use RBLs on the mailservers I maintain. It's not liek such feature are enabled by default
<T`aZ> thus me, and the one i wanted to communicate with, are screwed
<Coma> Sign up with someone less basterdly than me :p
<Coma> For me, it works as a selling point
<T`aZ> and there is no way, i'm gonna ask my correspondant, to ask his mail admin about the problem
<CatalinuX> BRB ... Rebooting
<Coma> Anyway, time for a short break
<BaY_GeVeZe> hello
<Kuto> thats why thereis this antivirus company who in the end, makes virus also so that people will buy anti viral softwares
<BaY_GeVeZe> I an from turkey
<BaY_GeVeZe> I cant speak englęsh
<Kuto> BaY_GeVeZe: then try your best for to understand you
<Kuto> ./u/us
<BaY_GeVeZe> no I can speak englęsh
<BaY_GeVeZe> hee
<BaY_GeVeZe> helo
<Kuto> how can we help you?
<BaY_GeVeZe> no I cant
<BaY_GeVeZe> speak
<BaY_GeVeZe> englęsh
<BaY_GeVeZe> no I do
<BaY_GeVeZe> no very
<Kuto> ?
<BaY_GeVeZe> I am from Turkey
<BaY_GeVeZe> I can speak turkęsh
<BaY_GeVeZe> no englęsh
<T`aZ> BaY_GeVeZe: dude, just ask your question in engligh, if you cant do that, ask in turkish in a turkish linux help chan, but not here
<MaNYaC> no I do
<MaNYaC> this is canal names what?
<Bullshot> !ping
<LadyByte> bullshot Ping uses the ICMP protocol's mandatory ECHO_REQUEST datagram to elicit an ICMP ECHO_RESPONSE from a host or router, even though some people think not replying to them is a Good Thing, since it 'protects' them from floods. HAH!' pong
<MaNYaC> What?
<MaNYaC> what is the name of this cahnnel?
<Coma> You're kidding, right?
<MaNYaC> what is the name of this cahnnel?
<ChaMeLioN> heh
<MaNYaC> nooo
<Coma> How can you not know what channel you joined?
<MaNYaC> turkey
<Bullshot> he/she blind and using braille keyboard
<MaNYaC> kelebek
<Coma> MaNYaC: I suggest your /part from this channel before getting ejected violently
<Coma> s/your/you/
<MaNYaC> ę joined this channel wrongly
<MaNYaC> I cant speak englęsh
<MaNYaC> no wery
<Bullshot> lol
<Bullshot> is it prohibited to version someone ?
<Bullshot> if its prohibited why it has no protection
<Coma> Bullshot: If you want to know what someone's running, it's more polite to ask them
<Coma> Though not everyone will react to versioning as extreme as the other
<Bullshot> ok Coma
<chromo> guys can someone explain to me why system(" date ; cat file1 ") correctly executes the date command but fails to execute the cat command properly?
<Coma> chromo: Probably because there won't be a shell available anymore
<Coma> Hmm, actually, it works just fine here
<Coma> I guess it just fails because file1 isn't present in the current working directory
<chromo> file1 is present coma..
<chromo> hmm.. then is there any way to execute multiple shell commands with one system call
<Coma> Yeah, exactly the way you're doing
<Coma> What if you drop the date and semicolon bit, does it still fail?
<chromo> well i dont know why.. but even system(" cat file1 ") seems to fail.. it just acts as if i just types cat.. it dosent accept the file argument
<chromo> and so does system(" vi file1 ").. it just starts vi.. dosen take the file1 argument..
<Coma> And if you run something like /bin/sh -c "cat file1" from the shell, does it work then?
<chromo> yes it did... OMG.. i figured out my mistake
<chromo> my code goes something like this...
<Coma> So, what was it?
<chromo> char command[255]="";
<chromo> scanf(%s[^\n],command);
<chromo> system(command)
<Coma> lol
<chromo> but the thing is.. when i enter-> cat file1;date at the prompt ..only cat gets stored in the variable 'command'... so that's where the problem is...
<Coma> Ok, not exactly like the sample you showed earlier :P
<chromo> yeah..!lol
<chromo> coma is there any way to put in the whole of " cat file1 ; date " with the scanf into the variable..?
<chromo> i mean including the spaces..
<Coma> Use getchar in a loop instead ;)
<Coma> Or gets perhaps, or.... anything but scanf
<chromo> i cant do that.. i am trying to exploit a program which has been coded with printf.. ( it's a challenge on the internet )
<chromo> so i have to feed the input so that scanf takes the space too...
<Coma> So, gets() will do that too
<chromo> yeah.. but i have the binary and the source... i cant change the binary ... i have to figure out how to exploit it looking at the source..
<chromo> and the binary is hard coded with scanf function..
<chromo> hehe!!
<Coma> Oh wait, *sees the light*
<ngine> hi all, anyone here have taken a Redhat certification exam,? I don't have redhat installed but i have fedora, is it ok to play and study fedora? thanks.
<Coma> ngine: If it's RHEL you're talking about, you might want to use centos instead
<chromo> coma...can i feed in commands in the form hex or octal to the bash shell ??
<ngine> Coma: RHEL? never heard of that, i saw RHCT, RHCE, RHCA, RHCSS
<Coma> ngine: Red Hat Enterprise Linux, as their distro's named
<Fiver> ngine: rhel = red hat enterprise linux
<ngine> ooops. sorry
<ngine> jargons
<Coma> chromo: Not that I know of
<Coma> chromo: Scratch that, it _is_ possible
<chromo> coma... i am listening..
<Coma> Instead of listening, you ought to be puzzling :P
<Coma> Where's this "challange" found anyway?
<chromo> it's on www.learnsecurityonline.com .. they've setup some free challegnes.. this ones' on level5
<chromo> i am puzzled alrite.. coma... so how do u feed space to scanf?
<Microsiga> there hi
<Microsiga> please, its a shellscript question: is there exist a parameter for "read" to input invisible.. such as p***word variable.. ex: echo -n "input new p***word" read p***
<Microsiga> cd /
<gnuboy> hi
<gnuboy> what kind of menu editor can I use in debian sarge , like smeg or alacrte, but these editors are not compiled for debian sarge
<ColdShots> Hi, I just installed ubuntu, what is the command to load libtls1.50.so ?
<ColdShots> wasn't that a right question...?
<jksd> try #ubuntu @ irc.freenode.net it's their official help channel
<ColdShots> thanks...!
<CatalinuX> Can someone try to help me with a firewall script please ?
<CatalinuX> someone ?
<LadyByte> eclipse asks me that a lot.
<Fiver> CatalinuX: what sort of help?
<CatalinuX> I set some rules with iptables and now am not able to ping anyone.. well I am able to do it but I do not receive any reply
<Zirus> Im having problems with fedora 5 resolution, can anyone help
<CatalinuX> I have put it here
<CatalinuX> http://pastebin.com/721143
<Fiver> can't seem to bring that page up..
<Zirus> me either
<Fiver> pastebin.com timing out for me. pick another pastebin?
<CatalinuX> I know that server has lag now.
<Fiver> !paste
<LadyByte> More than 3 lines? Paste your stuff at http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/ and then tell us the url it gives you.
<CatalinuX> But it will appear in some seconds :P
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