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<0> debian is, like, lookie at http://www.debian.org
<1> er why not ask google like normal people
<2> huh?
<2> i think its redragon^
<2> redragon?
<2> hmm
<2> Redragon^
<2> !redragon
<2> !status
<0> Since Tue Jan 17 22:35:08 2006, there have been modifications, questions, dunnos, morons and commands. I have been awake for d h m s this session, and currently reference 72 factoids. I'm using about 80 kB of memory. With active forks. Process time user/system 35.24/3.23 child 81.19/2.69
<2> hmm
<2> redragon^?
<0> redragon^ is, like, the creator of SRSS and spends way to much time researching server security and perl programming and a sendmail fanatic, or tripping, or the creator of GNU HH at http://hostingsoftware.net :^)
<2> there it is
<3> erm



<3> stupid lag
<2> wb
<1> no lag
<1> you were flooding
<4> !eat
<4> wopss sorry
<5> that really doesn't sound good
<3> themaxxz, neah, I said that with a difference about 30 seconds between
<4> hmmm query
<3> erm, you get the point
<4> :)
<5> maybe someone should change that factoid in LadyByte to -not- involve rim jobs
<3> !eat bronaugh
<5> excellent.
<3> erm
<3> someone banned a whole isp o.O
<5> !eat bulletz
<2> hosting provider not an isp
<6> a domain ;b
<3> erm?
<5> 10:02 -!- Borne- [~bor@c83-248-89-166.bredband.comhem.se]
<2> so they were probably blocking bots
<5> that dude's spamming about some poker site.
<5> just fyi.
<3> friend of mine has internet from interbusiness.it
<3> not necesarelly hosting provider
<2> guess they need to control their users better then :)
<5> yeah, that'll happen.
<5> if they "control" their users better their users will take their business elsewhere.
<3> interbusiness.it provides adsl to italy
<3> s/to/in/
<1> those guys dont speak english anyway
<3> true :-)
<2> but they might send mafia after us for ban ....
<5> hum.
<5> trying to figure out how to force grub to install onto a disk.
<1> redragon, nah
<5> ... one that's not listed in the BIOS, since the BIOS crashes if it tries to detect this drive
<1> bronaugh, so .. you hot plug it?
<7> Hi. I have a question. I am learning curl but I cannot seem to put in the cookie. First I run curl and login and get cookie, then I run it again and try to enter the cookie with -b, but it doesnt even put a cookie there. Am I doing something wrong? Is there some other linux utility to do this?
<1> linux doesnt really care about the bios
<5> themaxxz: grub-install does.
<5> /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
<1> check device.map
<5> interesting. ok.
<5> so can I use that file, in the long run, to let me install grub to 2 drives in a mirrored set without problems, such that if one drive fails it'll still boot from the other?
<1> not sure, but there's a howto on that I think
<5> ok.
<5> you know, I don't see many people doing mirrored swap.
<1> mirrored?
<1> why would you?
<5> because if a disk goes down then the whole system doesn't go down?
<1> swap?
<5> yes.
<1> system doesnt go down with swap afaik
<1> without



<8> themaxxz: not without it, but if the swapdisk dies:)
<9> evening
<5> no, but if it's written data to swap and can't get it back...
<5> good luck.
<1> ic
<5> things are going to go -very- wrong.
<1> well what I do is
<1> nevermind ... thats no better
<5> yeah, thus mirrored swap.
<5> I know it works; I've had a single disk go missing 10 or more times (it was overheating)
<5> system just kept on going, and because I was lazy/didn't want to deal with that kind of thing, I left it.
<1> yeah well of course it'll work
<5> stayed up 5 or so days after failure once without problems.
<1> my swap is on a raid5
<1> :-p
<5> heh, that's not so hot.
<5> write perf kind of ****s :P
<5> going to put swap on RAID1+0 on new server.
<1> if you're going to swap you have not enough memory anyway
<5> with 6 disks and 2-way mirroring I think the perf'll be pretty good.
<1> i got 512 in this box and its only using 100
<5> yeah. 64M RAM in the current phony-server.
<5> I'm 1M into swap :P
<5> linux still kind of rocks that way.
<5> good luck running any other comparably powerful modern server OS on a machine with 64M RAM
<10> yeah.
<10> Like one of the BSDs for instance
<1> on the 2G box I'm using 576MB
<5> steg: Solaris, Windows*, etc.
<1> DOS 8
<10> bronaugh: I dunno. I reckon you could run windows 2k decently in that.
<5> steg: no, not really.
<1> steg, the gui yeah
<1> but not anything else
<10> the GUI isn't used, it gets swapped out
<11> wtf?
<1> eh?
<11> my dads friend runs xp on 64meg
<2> he likes to wait huh
<5> steg: sure, until some error occurs and it pops up a dialog box.
<5> steg: or the Windows automatic updates thing keeps comctl32.dll in memory.
<5> or or or. you get the idea.
<10> bronaugh: apache would do that?
<5> steg: you wouldn't believe what Apache would do.
<5> on Windows it installs a system tray applet.
<10> oh dear
<11> lol redragon i think so m8
<5> the other thing that happens, is that if you have some app that occasionally crashes it'll pop up a dialog on the monitor.
<5> regardless of where the proces originated.
<11> hes a bit thick as well doesnt know mutch at all
<11> lol
<1> my win2k pro is using 11M :)
<11> i try explaining things to him but i give up :P
<10> bronaugh: hmmmph
<11> themaxxz wtf how comes
<5> steg: I know all about how much Windows ****s.
<1> and my rhel3 is using 6M
<1> at least that is what vmware is reporting :)
<5> themaxxz: heh.
<10> bronaugh: sounds like apache ****ing
<1> of course those are sitting idle
<5> steg: you should have seen the Windows web server we ran before Apache.
<10> feh, I'm still a bit ill
<10> I hate being ill
<5> you think -Apache- ****s. heh.
<1> currently my virtual machines are using 91M in total
<11> :o
<11> lol
<11> im using 256meg on xp
<5> yeah, I'm using about 350M RAM on my laptop.
<1> i have 1G in my laptop and its still dog slow


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