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<0> any suggestions?
<1> trying to stop gpm when you start x?
<0> i havent tried to
<1> I have heard that that was a problem for some people
<0> is there a way to stop it from doing that?
<0> i would ***ume using gpmdata as the device
<0> but i'm not sure if i have it setup correctly seeing is how the only thing i changed in the x config file, is Device "/dev/gpmdata"
<1> I have /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2
<1> and don't have problems
<1> but the thruth is that I have never had that problem, just read and heard about that
<0> whats exps2?
<0> hrms, i'll have to go try it
<0> hold
<0> see, now when i use /dev/input/mice i dont get a cursor at all in console
<1> which kernel?
<1> I mean thats depend on your device for mouse
<1> thats works for me (usb)
<0> 2.4.27-2-386
<0> i'm using an original microsoft ps2 mouse
<0> ps/2
<1> there is a ps2 for -t iirc
<2> darkn3ss_, are you talking about text mode, or in X server when you start a console?
<0> console = non x running
<2> ok ...
<2> well, you're right ... in X server it's terminal.
<2> but ... I've never heared of mouse in console
<0> you've never used a mouse in console?
<0> man gpm
<2> darkn3ss_, I don't need mouse in consloe.
<2> err: console
<0> i do, because i code in console
<2> oh ...
<2> OK
<0> much easier to navigate between vt's than it is to navigate between 5 windowed terminals imho
<2> no manual found for gpm
<0> oi, probably don't have it installed
<0> :D
<2> :D
<0> i just need to know how to link it using /dev/gpmdata
<1> is exactly the same for me.... C-1, C-2, C-3 in both cases
<2> hmmm .. it works forme.
<2> err: for me
<0> what x driver would you use for a standard ps/2 mouse?
<0> erm protocol rather
<1> darkn3ss_: do you have gpmconfig?
<2> what distro are you using?
<0> eald, yeh, well dpkg-reconfigure gpm
<0> which is the same thing
<0> and i'm talking about in X not in gpm
<0> zephyr_: debian sarge
<0> 3.1r1
<2> OK.
<2> :D
<0> and missing bsd, very much
<0> :D
<2> does BSD have X server?
<0> but java + fbsd do not mix
<0> yes it does
<0> the same x that linux uses
<2> hmmm .. interesting.
<2> I should try bsd than sometime.
<2> I just don't have enough knowledge for it ...
<0> its all on preference, i prefer bsd, but it doesnt suit me well for the next project
<0> try reading the handbook, www.freebsd.org/handbook/
<2> darkn3ss_, im talking about unix knowledge
<2> I mean I used Linux as a router before, but just that.
<0> just read thru google all day
<2> all I need to know for that is basic unix, and iptables
<2> :D
<0> thats how i learned, but way prior to google, something more along the lines of hotbot or something of that nature
<2> lol. I dont have the patience for googleing all day
<1> zephyr_: looks that "PS/2" is the standard for X
<1> I me the protocol that you must use
<1> and about the /dev/gpmdata, the manual says that you use -R option in gpm and says to X that use /dev/gpmdata as device
<0> brb
<3> Howdy
<4> hi di hi
<5> lol
<2> how do I set the domain name of myPC?
<6> zephyr_: locally? just type : hostname <name>
<5> :)
<6> zephyr_: example: hostname localhost.localdomain.com
<7>.<domainname>.suffix
<8> i am having some problems installing software and things i just don't understand yet
<8> i am fairly new to linux (debian) and i am trying pretty hard to learn what to do, but i just cant figure some things out
<8> anyone around?
<9> command to check the version of mySQL server?
<3> rodey .. how did you install debian?
<10> i need some help using wine to try to emulate Unreal Tournament Gothy
<11> After closing mozilla firefox and /o other apps the RAM and swap do not seem to clear the previously used memory. Any idea on how to fix this ?
<11> closing and restaring x seems to do the trick
<12> thripper: it is my understanding that the kernel doesn't always mark memory as free until it is needed
<12> say program a uses 32mb of ram and then exits. it won't show as free until one of the other processes run out of memory and need some of the mem previously allocated to process a, or a new program starts which needs the memory
<11> i do not think that is the case. after closing thunderbird, firefox, xchat , amarok .. etc the computer is still very slow ( if i try to open xterm for example ) even tough firefox starts a lot faster than the first time
<11> my guess is that certain libraries stay in memory until needed again
<11> "just in case"
<13> but in case something needs their space
<13> they are thrown away
<13> boo sinthetek :D
<11> as i said before, i do not think that "in case something needs their space ... " because the computer is deadly slow
<11> i am using xfce4 and xorg on a 800MHz with 256 RAM
<13> life...
<13> I'm using KDE and Xorg on a 3 GHz HT with 768 RAM
<13> and I still dont like it :))
<11> it must have smth to do with X
<11> ... maybe is the testing debian :P
<13> heh .. maybe
<13> I'm using mandriva powerpack 2006 ..
<11> heard about it ..
<13> didnt use mandriva for a long time .. and I tought to give it a shot
<13> so far .. a couple of troubles ..
<13> I think I'll get back to my fedora core 4 soon
<13> altough I think I'll wait for fc5 to come out :)
<11> fedora is a big dissapointment for me
<11> they keep changing progs to suit them.
<13> well .. as long as it works
<13> and I con compile anything
<11> the change is big enough to be confusing regarding config files ... etc
<13> can*
<13> well .. you got used to debian
<13> I got used to fc ! :)
<11> perhaps
<11> but i used slack for a Loooong time before debian
<11> the change was not painfull or anything
<13> I have some slack cd's around ..
<13> I still stick to fedora
<13> as soon as 5 is out .. I'm moving back to it :P
<11> when i quit redhat/fedora ... it took me smth to find grub.conf ... actually menu.lst in the real world
<13> hehehe
<11> sendmail was a killer ... everyting was so f**** up .. i'm using exim now
<13> lol
<13> postfix
<13> never could get exim to work :)
<11> 500+ accounts :(
<12> thripper: perhaps it takes so long to regain the memory because the memory is being allocated to other processes who previously had pages swapped out?
<12> say you have 20 apps running and not enough ram, most of the apps will be partially swapped out unless consistently used
<12> when you have some free memory, the kernel start's de-swapping which means your system has to wait on disk i/o and might even start thrashing (continually swapping/unswapping) if you keep opening more stuff
<11> sinthetek, my guess is that some libs *remain* in memory. hence the fast start of firefox. some kind of closing app = put aside for later use. restaring x regains that memory
<14> thripper: am using postfix + mysql + quota + courier-imap + amavisd-new + spam******in + razor2 + clamav
<12> thripper: how much ram do you have, anyway?
<11> sinthetek, 256MB
<15> yarrrrgh.... that's not much
<14> and it works like wonders hehehe
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