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<0> phalcon: I think you'll be a little dissapointed
<1> the same ?
<0> Nope, it's ubuntu stripped from all the eyecandy and automagic stuff, amongst other things
<0> Or the other way around, ubuntu is a dressed up debian, making it a little more accessible for Joe Average
<2> phalcon: Ubuntu is more for a desktop, automation of everything, but you have an option to install only* the server components during installations
<2> management is just the same, apt-get rocks
<3> what is the easiest way to fix a boot record for centos.. : it complains about no boot sector found
<1> yeah, I love apt-get in Ubuntu, thats my favourite
<1> thats what makes it so easy
<0> gizmie: Boot using some rescue disk and reinstall lilo/grub
<3> i tried grub-install as ussual but i guess i still miss somethin.. reinstall then :) thanks
<4> 'morning, Coma.
<4> ltns.
<0> Ohayou dan
<0> Ayup, been _busy_, a lot
<0> gizmie: ugh, that's such a windows like solution
<3> coma: grub can be reinstalled from rescue cd and how? network part of the rescue hangs so i skipped it..
<0> Sorry, I was off on a smokebreak
<0> You should have used the rescue disk to boot your actual installation, but it should be possible to install it from the rescue disk, too
<5> hi MEY0R
<3> coma any idea where on the rescue disk and how to access?
<0> Search for grub-install, or possibly, mount your harddisk and install form there
<6> or learn to fly :-)
<3> coma: not on the hd anymore since i purged/cleabned/erased
<3> grub-install takes forever.. waited 15 minutes..
<3> reinstall is not fun as well since it iwll erase all partitions..
<3> i opted for not erasing but then it complains about no / mount
<0> Oh yeah, that can take a while indeed, since it runs some timeconsuming probes
<0> Heh, that's why you should have booted your installed system using the rescue disk
<7> hi, can list ftp directory content in konqueror using proftpd. any idea?
<0> Er, what?!
<7> Coma: talking to me?
<0> Mostly, and to the public in general
<7> right ;)
<8> hi. can anyone help me with VLM?
<7> do i cant see the listing of a ftp driectory
<0> samy: That might be prohibited by the server's config or the directory's permissions
<7> i can access it in cammand line, but not in konqueror
<7> nono
<7> the prob really comes from the graphic client
<0> You mean that with a commandline ftp client, it works, but not from konq?
<7> same thing with any file browser (windows, linux) or ftp client
<7> right
<6> ___SAMY___, do you allow p***ive ftp transfer from within konqueror?
<7> it's done through the control center right?
<7> if so the yes
<6> i have no idea cause i dont use konqueror
<7> ok
<0> fsck: Going to ask anything specific or just looking for generic handholding?
<7> same thing from firefox...
<7> i get le login dialog but then nothing...
<6> but the dir list problem appears when the ftp server does not send data via port 20 and 21, and instead only via port 21 which is called "p***ive ftp". and the client needs to have that enabled
<0> samy: You mean it exhibits the same problem in firefox?
<7> yes
<7> it's not a NAT problem, because i can list and transfer files using command line
<7> it's related with the LSIT ftp command sent by the browsers
<7> it seems proftpd doesn't know how to handle it...
<0> Oh trust me, proftpd does know how to handle it
<7> for sure...
<8> Coma: I am trying to increase my /home partition. I have asked my host to create new partitions on hdd1 - because the entire space was mounted to / (I don't have physical access to the server). Now I just have to...use VLM, just not sure how. I'm was reading here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/initdisks.html, but I don't quite understand, english not being my primary language (i'm from EU)
<8> ..and I don't want to mess something up. Note that I backed up my files to hdd2
<0> fsck: You know that most of tldp is translated in numerous languages, right?
<7> look at this:
<7> nc xxx.xxx.xxx 21
<7> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [192.168.1.3]
<7> USER samy
<7> 331 P***word required for samy.
<7> oops
<6> ___SAMY___, why dont you listen?
<0> fsck: And perhaps you're not looking for LVM at all, but just want a new /home partition.
<8> yes, I do. My language is not one of them :/
<7> tell me
<6> i did
<7> stallfan i here you
<8> I am looking for VLM. Both hdd's have the same capacity. I was told I can use hdd2 to increase /home
<6> ___SAMY___, the stop babbling crap about proftpd and configure your graphical clients correctly
<0> fsck: Only if you were using lvm already
<7> that what i'm asking...
<0> fsck: So if /home/ already resides on an LVM managed volume (and uses a growable filesystem), only then it'll work
<7> but the graphical clients connect without problem to others ftps...
<7> that's why I'm asking about proftpd...
<0> samy: And you're not using different logins by any chance, like a real user vs. anonymous?
<7> anonynous is disabled
<6> well, he said the problem starts with the dir list _after_ the login
<7> I can login...
<7> I can login (USER samy, P*** xxx)
<7> then go pssive (PASV)
<7> but not list directory (LIST hangs...)
<6> either what i told twice or you disabled p***ive ftp on the ftp daemon
<0> Funny, I can access proftpd based ftp servers just fine form firefox
<6> so it _is_ able to send to control information but is _not_ able to receive the data via port 20
<7> me too! but not mine!!
<7> and how does it manage to do it through ftp command ?
<0> Because any normal ftp client doesn't use p***ive ftp by default
<7> right, I just checked with ethereal and there's not PASV command in the log...
<8> Coma: How can I know if /home resides on an LVM managed volume?
<0> fsck: mount will show you
<7> but when i disable p***ive mode in konqueror, I don't even get the login dialog!
<7> how come?!
<0> samy: Can you stick your proftpd.conf somewhere on the web? pastebin perhaps
<8> Coma: I typed "mount" and /home is not here.
<8> this means I can't use VLM?
<0> fsck: Which means /home is part of the root (/) partition
<8> yes
<8> but df shows: /dev/sda3 145G 168M 138G 1% /home
<7> no... what precisely do you want to know?
<0> Err
<8> there's a separate partition for /home. I told them to create one. The entire partition was mounted to / before
<0> df does show it mounted yet mount itself doesn't?
<8> yes
<8> mount doesn't show it
<8> but df does
<9> LOL
<0> fsck: Anyway, if sda3 appears to be mounted anyway, and it's on /home already, why would you want to use lvm?
<8> Coma: I was told I can mount VLM in /home or something?
<8> what I need to do it, use hdd2 as an extra for /home
<8> like extra space
<0> That only works if /home already resided on an lvm volume
<0> If your regular old / partition is just that, a harddisk partition, using LVM won't do you much good
<0> All you could do, is the move contents of the original /home/ to the new disk, wipe out the old /home and mount the new disk as such
<0> Only that way, the space that the old /home occupied gets returned to the root partition and everything on it
<8> everything is on the new disk (2nd hdd). Right now /home is empty
<0> How do you mean, everything?
<8> the /home partition is empty
<8> I moved everything to the 2nd hard drive before my host repartitioned the primary drive
<0> Heh, and still it's not all that clear to me. But anyway, if your original /home isn't in anyway part of an original LVM set, you can't _add_ space to it using lvm
<8> Sorry. It's hard fot me to explain..How can I make it part of the original VLM set? can I do this?
<8> :/
<8> for*
<0> I doubt there was one
<0> What sort of device does mount show your / partition as?
<8> ext3
<8> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
<8> oh wait!
<8> there's home too
<8> sorry
<8> /dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw)
<8> I didn';t see it before
<0> Well, those are all regular partitions on a scsi (or sata) disk, and _not_ LVM volumes, so you can't add anything to it.
<10> Can you have more than one panel in KDE?
<0> What you could do however, is turn that whole new disk in a LVM volume group, create a new volume on that for /home, move al the /home stuff over, then unmount the original /home, mount the new home volume and then create a vg on that old partition so that you _can_ add it to the new one
<8> Coma, can I do this remotely?
<0> Hmmm, yes, when you're careful. It does involve rebooting atleast once to swap the two home partitions, since you can't drop down to single user mode
<8> wow..this sounds so complicated
<8> my host won't do it only for a fee ($65/hr). They charged me $65 for this repartitioning. If you ever think to go with burst.net...think twice.
<0> That's why I have my own boxen
<0> And honestly, it isn't all that difficult, you just need to be careful. especially if you don't have physical access to th ebox
<8> I guess you can't help me with this, something like step by step. I'd do it myself if I knew what to do :/
<0> I'm pretty tied up in work myself
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