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<0> Are they moving away from RPM?
<1> what new package system? they're changing from urpmi ?
<2> not yet
<2> but there are plans to move to "smart package manager"
<1> that means?
<2> http://labix.org/smart
<1> so they will not change urpmi.
<1> it's just bringing advantages.
<1> right?
<2> when spm is implemented it makes no sense to keep urpmi
<2> but its still in early development stage so you wont see it in the near future
<1> it's written in python, isn't that kinda bad?
<2> for speed purposes you mean?
<3> synaptic: python 0wnz you.
<1> steg_: i did a little python, but what i did was unstable.
<1> ValeFiona: speed and running unstable.
<3> synaptic: "unstable"?
<2> the unstable part must have been caused by you
<3> synaptic: don't blame python for your inability to use it :P
<2> hehe
<3> python's always been very solid
<1> well i didn't say it was unstable because of it...
<3> I think I've encountered one bug, in a peripheral module, since I started using it
<1> i think it was my fault..
<1> but still, i was just asking.
<3> of course it was your fault ;)
<1> :)
<2> about speed disadvantages compared to C or C++ applications i dont know enough
<3> it's irrelevant most of the time
<3> python is generally more than fast enough
<3> it's very easy to integrate with C and C++ if you wish to optimise critical sections
<1> ValeFiona: there is a speed problem posted there because of the "Psyco JIT" that it uses.
<3> synaptic, you're talking rubbish
<1> steg_: read that page.
<3> python doesn't use a JIT compiler.
<2> at least its faster than yum :D
<1> Second, Smart uses the [WWW] Psyco JIT for Python, that aims to make apps run faster. It should improve Smart speed in most systems, and internal benchmarks proved that. But there's a documented problem: "Drawbacks: Psyco currently uses a lot of memory". There are some specific cases where the problem that makes Smart slow resides on the memory consumption, not the optimizations.
<1> i was talking about the smart package manager now.
<3> synaptic: psyco is an add-on
<3> that only runs on x86 32-bit machines
<3> it is not in python by default.
<1> so smart will only run on x86 right?
<3> no. It'll probably try to import psyco, and if the import fails, just not bother using it
<1> and it has on option of disable it .
<3> try: import psyco except ImportError: p***
<1> hehe.
<1> you really love python, don't you?
<3> yes. I also hate the FUD that surrounds it.
<3> there are also tools like Pyrex, that allow you to write almost-python and have it compile to a C extension
<1> heh.
<4> .o
<3> psyco is a pretty neat idea though
<3> optimising python is interesting because it's so dynamic
<3> you can be sure of very little at compile-time (yes, python is compiled to bytecode)
<4> steg_, preaching again? :)
<3> themaxxz: somebody had the audacity to criticise python :P
<4> oh dear
<4> who was that infidel?
<4> GAURD
<5> :)
<4> ditCh, sup?
<5> nothin much
<5> watchin the game
<5> havin a bud
<5> :)
<4> ditCh, so .. is somebody paying you any money yet?
<5> as in ... am I back at work ? :)
<4> yes
<5> yes I am
<5> back 2 Telenet
<4> good, hate to be paying taxes alone
<5> roflol :)
<4> ditCh, what are you doing there, web design?
<5> no :( ... back to support
<5> only 2de line now :)
<4> oh
<4> so you get the slightly less dumb users
<5> idd
<5> mostly with clue :)
<5> well anyway I really needed a job :) anything goes atm :)
<6> is google being evil?
<7> how can I make sendmail put the mails in Maildir/ format ?
<8> /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start
<8> Starting httpd: httpd: bad user name robilove
<8> [FAILED]
<9> lol
<10> which httpd is it?
<1> well hey there madalin
<7> BOO !
<7> Star Trek - First Contact
<7> Star Trek - The Voyage Home
<1> google - first contact.
<7> Star Trek - The Undiscovered Country
<7> neah ..
<7> I was wondering from where to start
<7> and in witch order ..
<1> it would've sounded better with google in place of star trek
<9> hey synaptic
<1> how is the weather out there?
<9> synaptic; outwhere ?;)
<1> out in .ro
<9> synaptic; i left .ro, i'm in .es now ;)
<1> damn.
<1> i left .ro to i'm in .gr now.
<1> damn.
<1> here it's already summer.
<1> 22 degrees.
<9> synaptic; anyway, i heard it's rainy, or snowy
<1> heheh
<9> synaptic; heh, well, here there are 21 ;)
<1> hehe, .gr is ahead .es
<1> hehe
<11> :P
<10> i want affordable internet for on my mobile phone!
<10> id make an java irc client for it
<11> Niteye; learn english before you get that.
<11> oops
<11> i see clones in here:)
<10> I'd like an affordable internet service for on my mobile phone.
<10> there now everybodys happy
<10> except for me
<11> Niteye; do i look happy ?;)
<10> yes
<11> Niteye; i dont think so
<10> thats what winking smileys are for though
<10> to express your happiness
<11> Niteye; aight, you rule ;)
<10> plusplus, winking is hinting that you want to get the person in question in bed
<1> ahhaha
<11> Niteye; if you're a she, you got the last one right, if you're an he, tell me and i'll just /quit ;)
<10> im a shemale
<11> Niteye; oh, and i'm an alieshe
<10> !google alieshe
<12> google can't find alieshe
<4> .o
<11> themaxxz: check this: http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/1965
<11> :)
<10> where is the linux mic recorder?
<10> i want to record myself
<13> Niteye: rec ?
<10> thankies
<10> i do "rec test.wav" , but i dont hear anything when i play the file
<10> and yes the mic is connected, and connected with the correct port
<10> and sound seems to work because i hear music and annoying sounds in flash ads
<14> hi
<14> I have a problem with ntfs usb disks, and only root can access them. How can I change it to be accessible from all users? I have Fedora core 4
<4> umask=0222
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