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<0> and those apps haven't changed *that* much since i've been using linux
<1> window managers have changed a lot
<0> i think a lot of the higher requirements are due to hardware, and code optimized for them
<1> the kernel has changed a lot
<1> hardware requirements have changed a lot
<1> but it's still different depending on the distro as well
<0> instead of code that is optimzied only for like intel p2 instruction set, you have code that is optimized for more processors and kernels that are compiled for more hardware etc
<0> some something like that maybe
<2> Well, the reason for recomending 400MHz is probably that starting Gnome on the Live CD should not take all day.
<0> the changes in features and such aren't very profound though. you can run more apps at once on more archs
<2> Also, the ammount of RAM is due to the ramdisk to further speed some stuff up.
<2> How does slackwares live CD feature handle swap?
<0> slax uses unionfs
<0> i dunno any specifics though, i have never used it
<0> well, i have used backtrack
<0> but i still dunno how it works all that closely
<0> :P
<0> i haven't used it extensively or anything
<2> But it works fine on a 200MHz with 32MB of RAM, gives Gnome and Firefox and all that?
<2> I think the two might be aimed at -slightly- different audiences and thus might have somewhat differing targets.
<0> i wasn't really talking about livecds.. slack 9.1 was the last version i used on that system, and like i said, that was with fluxbox or windowmaker
<0> and that was before firefox really. it ran mozilla suite though
<0> actually, my ex used to run gnome on it sometimes as well
<0> but ti was way too slow for my taste
<0> hehe
<3> I've never tried a Slack LiveCD... there would be no point. The Ubuntu LiveCD isn't worth bothering with... it takes it almost five minutes to boot on extremely modern hardware.
<2> huh? Well I was talking about live CDs as that's waht the x86-64 preacher man was talking about.
<0> gnome and moz would both take a bit to load but i know moz wasn't too bad once it was already loaded
<2> mwilson: Well, if you're gonna install Ubuntu you'll have to boot the Live CD. It's the same CD.
<0> sorry, i knew you were talking about livecds but i wasn't really thinking on those terms when you mentioned ubuntu sys reqs. i guess i forgot ubuntu install cd was a livecd too
<0> i've never really compared my knoppix cd to my backtrack cd on the same hardware, but backtrack has phenominol network support compared to knoppix
<3> You actually bother with a kiddie tool like backtrack?
<0> it supports way more network hardware and network analysis/forensics tools out of the box
<0> do you consider ethereal a kiddie tool as well?
<0> what about gcc?
<0> just because kiddies use it doesn't make it a 'kiddie tool'
<3> Backtrack is *positioned* as a kiddie tool. If I sell you a crowbar at a hardware store, it's a useful tool. If I sell you the same crowbar along with a set of lockpicks, and label it "burglar tools", then it's a kiddie product.
<3> Or are you going to tell me that the backtrack web site has all of a sudden become professional?
<0> it was originally recommended when i couldn't get knoppix to work on a friend's laptop with intel wifi
<0> i didn't say it is professional, either
<0> and i realize it has a lot of malicious utilities and stuff
<0> but that doesnt' negate it's usefulness
<0> i was actually harr***ed by border patrol trying to go into canada because they found it in my gf's laptop
<0> i doubt they knew what it was right away.. prolly had to look it up or something
<0> i had to keep repeating that i don't use windows and that i use it when using friend's computers cuz it has most advanced network support so i could get online whereever i used it :(
<4> policemen in America search peoples' computers??
<0> not always, but apparently they do when attempting to cross the border
<0> hah
<0> well, canada is who searches you going in
<0> .us searches you coming out
<0> when canada rejected me cuz of my misdemeanor record...
<0> it is .us policy to search everyone who is rejected from .ca
<5> sinthetek: when, other than crossing the border, do you run into the border patrol? ;)
<0> wlfshmn: blah, hush!
<0> wlfshmn: you're makin' me look bad :P
<0> stop crampin' my style!
<5> sinthetek: it's my job ;)
<0> hehe
<5> canada rejects you because of a single misdemeanor?
<5> heck, how did they even know about the misdemeanor?
<4> I'm gonna offer the Trinux author to take over the project, it's grossly outdated
<0> i didn't expect them to turn on the computer, and if they didn't i didn't expect them to research the software on it and stuff
<0> wlfshmn: they ran my name and it came up
<0> wlfshmn: apparently they thought we looked suspicious
<5> I don't suppose you happened to be a group of americans ages 18-20? ;)
<0> after a 3 day drive with my gf to meet her mom in canada, i was turned back at the border and had to sit in a hotel room for 2 days alone :(
<0> and it was more than one misdemeanor, but according to them, any misdemeanor means you cannot enter unless it was more than 5 years old and you apply for a waiver of the restriction
<5> here we are safe, as long as we don't tick the box about planning on ******inating the president when going to the us..
<0> nope, i was youngest at 27, my friends were both 29 at the time
<0> i am half black though and look kinda young
<0> and was unkempt after the 3 day drive
<0> so...
<5> half-black.. they use that wording?
<0> no, i do
<0> they prolly just say 'non-white'
<5> gives me visuals about something painted half white, and half black ;)
<0> i've woken up on greyhound with mexican border patrol talking to me in spanish before :(
<0> i hate .us
<5> which would explain turning you back though I usppose ;)
<0> wlfshmn: hehe
<5> I have it easier, I'm so white even the neo-nazis like me
<0> lol
<0> http://love.mentalcases.net
<5> pale, 6' tall blonde and blueeyed ;)
<0> lovebirds:babydoll
<0> that's me and gf
<0> excuse the crappiness of the site, SHE is supposed to do the design, i was just doing the coding
<0> she's an art major and i really **** with design/visual
<5> sinthetek: you could just use galelry2 ,)
<0> didn't you suggest that a few weeks ago for something?
<0> oh, thumbnail generation
<0> haha, i never got around to implementing that yet
<0> nah, i'd rather reinvent the wheel :P
<5> dunno, maybe. If it's a good idea, it's liekly it swas mine ;)
<0> :P
<5> aw, crap.. I forgot all about the boar dmeeting today..
<6> hey ScoT :)
<7> Afternoon.
<0> oh yeah, i forgot
<0> i was going to ask, does anyone have any experience messing with serial devices? i'm trying to use bitpim with my cellphone as a regular user
<0> i was able to do it a couple of weeks ago with no problems and i don't think i've changed anything related since then
<0> all i had to do was chmod o+rw /dev/ttyACM0
<0> but now it is saying the port couldn't be open: permission denied
<4> are you sure it's trying to open /dev/ttyACM0
<0> Demonen: sorry i missed your earlier response. no, it's not a symlink
<0> wondra: yep
<0> <0> /dev/ttyACM0: Could not open port: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
<0> '/dev/ttyACM0'
<0> that is the exact error
<0> it works fine as root
<0> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 166, 0 Jan 17 10:09 /dev/ttyACM0
<4> lockfile permissions come to my mind...
<0> i considered that
<0> i copied /root/.bitpim* and chmod -R'd it
<2> If it's a lockfile issue it should complain about the lockfile, not about the /dev/ one.
<0> copied it to my ~*
<0> chown -R'd*
<0> heh
<0> i got it
<0> my user wasn't part of the serial group
<0> which i don't really understand since the device isn't owned by the serial group and is o+rw...
<0> but hey, it works now that i added myself to it
<0> it must have been longer than i thought since i used it... it's been like 1.5-2 months since i accidentally mount -o bind'd /etc to that chroot dir and accidentally deleted it
<8> hi i need some help to install identd daemon on Fedora Core
<0> yum install oidentd?
<8> apt-get install identd
<4> there is apt-get on fedora?
<8> it works :)
<8> after i type that, what do i have to type to install it and run it?
<4> probably nothing.
<9> another OS stealling from debian
<4> identd is foolproof and configless
<8> wondra but i type ps aux and i don't see the process running :(
<4> ... look at inetd.conf
<9> go to /etc/init.d
<9> and start it
<8> with /etc/init.d/oindetd start ??
<4> identd is run per-request by inetd.
<8> how i start it ??
<10> hey girl wut kinda dongs u into
<9> like that
<2> inetd sits and listens for connections. When it gets a connection that is supposed to go to the identd, it wakes it up, does the request, and kills it again.
<2> That's the point of inetd, to not have 2973 daemons running just for the basic services
<2> :)
<10> hey girl wut kinda dongs u into
<10> oh man i got wicked bad gas
<10> holy ****
<1> watch the language, OMGDONGS
<11> could someone just kick this joker.
<0> wtf
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