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<Redragon> okay then its not a server if your not using it as a server
<nicknamee> hi, somebody is online here, and can help me compiling a .c file on my root?
<danq> haha
<Redragon> on your root?
<walfly> Sanc: have you been to ubuntuguide.org
<Znuff> nicknamee, google
<Redragon> and what file would this be?
<Sanctusorium> I think so. Let me see
<Sanctusorium> I have been to about 5 or 6 diffrent guides
<walfly> Redragon: not everyone likes to work from the command line
<Sanctusorium> And I have not read that one.
<Sanctusorium> I will look through it.
<Redragon> walfly like it or not, gui on a server is a waste of resources better dedicated to the purpose of a server
<Sanctusorium> Also, I like command line, but I don't know the Linux commandline at all.
<Sanctusorium> <_<
<Znuff> Redragon, server crashes upon %-2.%-1
<Redragon> it crashed?
<Redragon> what error?
<walfly> Redragon: isn't that why people choose linux in the first place to have a choice
<Znuff> Redragon, syntax failed
<Redragon> hmm look at their examples again, maybe its %-2.-1, i'd have to look again
<walfly> Redragon: plus you can shutdown the gui when not in use anyways
<Znuff> VirtualDocumentRoot /usr/local/apache/vhosts/%2.0.%3.0
<Znuff> hmmm
<Redragon> even when your not in it, its eating resources and disk space :)
<Znuff> let's see again
<Redragon> walfly i just think if your going to run a server 1) you need to dedicate it to the task at hand 2) if you can't do it by hand learn or give up doing servers
<Redragon> lazy and incompetent admins have put the internet into the mess it is now (along with users that dont update)
<Redragon> if you dont know how to configure the server without gui utilities i'm fairly sure you dont know how to adequately defend it against intrusion and attack
<Znuff> Redragon, the magic was %-2.0.%-1.0
<walfly> Redragon: lazy admin's fault yes, but the gui's
<Redragon> nice :)
<Znuff> for the domain part
<Redragon> walfly you think if they dont know how to configure the network settings of their box without a gui they even have a clue where to begin to prevent intrusion?
<Znuff> now trying to see if I can get the subdomain part too :D
<walfly> Redragon: no I didn't say that. I don't really think that having a gui will change you. either your lazy or your not
<Znuff> GUI's ****
<Znuff> CLI rulz! :D
<walfly> Znuff: so what CLI IRC client are you using right now?
<Znuff> I'm on windows right now
<walfly> hummm.
<walfly> interesting
<Redragon> no it wont change you but if they rely on gui do you think they are going to learn the real wokrings of the machine?
<Znuff> sometimes they do
<Znuff> but only because they need something that the GUI doesn't provide
<Redragon> i use windows as a workstation
<Znuff> Redragon, yup, I've got the domain part fine :D now just one problem... if the user types "domain.com" the webserver gets confused :-?
<walfly> Redragon: sure I like gui's so I can have multi terminal windows opens, and web browsers, ftp clients, and whatever when I'm setting something up. makes my life much easier
<Znuff> on a server just slows things down
<walfly> Znuff: so turn if off when your done
<Redragon> hmm shouldn't get confused (unless you have a virtualhost defined for domain.com outside of mod_vhost_alias)
<Redragon> walfly yes on a workstation but do you do that on a server?
<Znuff> Redragon, when I type it without a subdomain, apache interprets %3 as _
<Redragon> hmm
<Redragon> simple, dont resolve domain.com :)
<Redragon> force them to use www
<Znuff> that's silly =
<Znuff> I hate websites that don't resolve the domain.tld =/
<walfly> Redragon: depends on the server and who I am serving to
<Redragon> hehe
<Redragon> znuffy welcome to complications hehe
<Redragon> walfly i do all my work from a workstation and let my servers do their job of serving :)
<Redragon> i gotta get a new MB so i can put linux on this system
<Znuff> I want OSX on my system =/
<Znuff> but the damn thing won't recognize my sata controller
<Redragon> linux wont recognize my mb chipset, sata2 controller, or my nic
<walfly> which linux?
<Redragon> any
<Znuff> 2.6 was the correct answer, Redragon
<Redragon> 2.4 or 2.6
<Redragon> no support for this particular mb and its embedded components because of the chipsets
<walfly> i had a simalar issue with some of the security enhanced distros
<Redragon> asrock dual 939 sata 2 went with something besides nforce for the chipset so no support :(
<Znuff> dual 939? =/
<Redragon> yea, running an amd 3800x2
<Znuff> o.O
<Znuff> 10cpu[1 x Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.20 GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache | Load: 2%]
<Redragon> and will support all the way up to latest amd 64bit dual core
<Znuff> forgot about that
<Redragon> hehe
<Gaia^> :)
<Varange> hi there
<Redragon> hi
<Varange> two things on KDE.... where do I switch the pop-up help thingy on the KMenu off? and where do I switch the tune off that plays when I log in?
<Varange> hi Redragon
<Varange> early morning here
<Znuff> Redragon, remember that mod_rewrite thingie I did ages ago? :)
<diablitoo_> how can i block the ssh access to users accounts?
<rikki> Varange: KDE Control Center
<Znuff> diablitoo_, set them a shell of /bin/false
<Varange> rikki, yep thanks. Found the first, not the second one
<Redragon> znuff nope, i can't remember what all i did yesterday :)
<Znuff> :>
<Varange> diablitoo_, in /etc/sshd.conf
<Varange> diablitoo_, one mo
<diablitoo_> ok ..../etc/ssh/sshd_config i found it
<diablitoo_> :=) tnks..
<Varange> diablitoo_, i'm not sure it's in there though
<Gaia^> Redragon: I can, however >G<
<Redragon> all you have to do is set their shell to /bin/false and poof no more login
<diablitoo_> i see.. let my try whit the bin/false..
<Redragon> just like znuff said :)
<Varange> diablitoo_, have you got webmin running? I see in the webmin module that it uses access control lists to manage who can and who cannot access
<Gaia^> as soon as I get the reports from Znuff, i will paste in here what Redragon did yesterday :)
<Varange> diablitoo_, if a user has a shell of /bin/false, he cannot login at all, I think
<longword> Evening Gaia
<rikki> Varange: In the control center/System Notification/Event Sorce Sytem Nonification/KDE is starting up
<longword> !seen `jadey`
<Gaia^> longword b0o, dang Now Im for it! the headmaster caught me!
<LadyByte> `jadey` is currently on #linuxhelp (4d 14h 16m 32s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 2d 6h 36m 9s
<longword> Knee deep in coffee I bet
<rikki> Morning Longword
<Varange> rikki, wow, thanks
<Viking667> sorry about that. TERM for OpenBSD is a little more sensitive to abuse than under Linux.
<longword> 'lo rikki
<Viking667> I tried pcvt50, but got lots of overwriting lines.
<Viking667> so it's back to vt220
<diablitoo_> ok Varange.. let my try something.. hold on...
<Varange> diablitoo_, ok, got it. In sshd_config, there's a DenuyUsers directive
<Varange> diablitoo_, ok, got it. In sshd_config, there's a DenyUsers directive
<diablitoo_> yes Varange im try to do that DenyUsers and DenyGroups on sshd_conf
<Varange> on the very last lineof my config file: DenyUsers one two three
<Varange> and DenyGroups groupone grouptwo
<diablitoo_> but ... my server its on other location..so i have a little scare.. je
<Varange> ooooh yes
<Varange> also does AllowUsers one two three
<Varange> diablitoo_, turn the "allowLoginFromRoot" on for a moment... until you've tested
<diablitoo_> theres another way..
<diablitoo_> Linux PAM configuration that allows or deny login via the sshd server
<Varange> oh yes, good idea
<diablitoo_> on
<diablitoo_> etc/pam.d/ssh
<diablitoo_> auth required pam_listfile.so item=user sense=deny
<diablitoo_> ...
<Varange> diablitoo_, i'd switch everything on, then test the sshd config
<Varange> anyway, gtg, bye
<diablitoo_> what is mean gtg?
<Viking667> "got to go"
<Viking667> it's short for "I have to leave"
<diablitoo_> oh!


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