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<optocus> i mean knoppix fits 700MB right?!
<optocus> neh can't work without X
<optocus> :)
<themaxxz> get a bigger hd
<optocus> i'm dumb windows user
<optocus> so i get other hdd
<optocus> ok
<optocus> thanks
<optocus> thought it can be done and i don't know how
<Demonen> optocus: skip gnome, stuff something smaller on it, like IceWM. That should save you some.
<Demonen> Also, it's usually all the extra random crap that's taking up space.
<optocus> can i have just X without a DE?
<Demonen> Yeah.
<Demonen> Sure, unless you're completely addicted to putting nice icons on your desktop and whatever.
<Demonen> IceWM, for instance, doesen't need any DE to work.
<Sarthor> delay_pool prob! here is ma delay pool, want to gave 5/kb to each client http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/2597
<GenEthic> hey.. it`s there anyway.. after i mount the cd-rom .. to open it by a linux command ? not pressing the button ?
<Fiver> GenEthic: "eject"
<GenEthic> Fiver thanx a lot :)
<darkn3ss_> what file tells gdm what the default window manager to login to is?
<CaDyMaN> can someone help me whit Vhosting ?
<Znuff> Hello guys
<Znuff> Redragon, you around?
<Redragon> am now kinda, whats up?
<Znuff> figured it out eventually :P
<Znuff> just trying to do some 'm***' virtual hosting :)
<Znuff> But actually I'm not sure yet :P
<Znuff> enlighten me, please
<Znuff> let
<Znuff> erm
<Znuff> let's say I have the domain xxx.com, and a directory structure like /domain/xxx.com
<LeBear> Znuff: Include /etc/apache/sites/*.conf
<Znuff> LeBear, wait :)
<Znuff> and I have the subdomains like /domain/xxx.com/www; /domain/xxx.com/mail; /domain/xxx.com/something
<Redragon> okay so far easy enough
<Znuff> so, I want www.xxx.com to point to /domain.xxx.com/www; mail.xxx.com to /domain/xxx.com/mail
<Znuff> and so on
<Znuff> and I have a * IN CNAME xxx.com
<Znuff> I don't want to create a <VirtualHost> for each directory
<Znuff> as that would be an overkill
<Redragon> well thats pretty much what i do
<Znuff> so, could I instead use a simple directive like this:
<Redragon> only my software does it for me when they create a sub domain
<LeBear> I suppose you could do some weirdness with mod_rewrite..
<Redragon> there is a virtual host module of some sort but it has a predefine path system i think, never used it
<Redragon> your using 2x?
<Znuff> uhm, I've seen it once on a VPS server
<Znuff> 2.x yes
<Znuff> but I can't exactly figure it out now =/
<Znuff> and I have no clue what I've done with the config file I copied then =/
<Redragon> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_vhost_alias.html
<Redragon> thats all i can think of that will do what your looking for
<Znuff> I was reading this
<Znuff> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/m***.html
<Znuff> but I want something more complex
<Znuff> something like VirtualDocumentRoot /domain/%1/%2 or something
<Redragon> yea thats part of mod_vhost_alias
<Znuff> so I just have to play with %
<Znuff> %'s ?
<Redragon> look at the mod_vhost_alias and it gives all the details about the % usage
<Znuff> yeah, I'm reading
<Redragon> never used it myself
<Redragon> i hard code everything
<Znuff> don't know if I could get it right :D
<Znuff> I don't know what -2+ the penultimate and all preceding parts would spit out
<Znuff> it's more like an english lesson for me =/
<Redragon> not sure i understand that hehe
<Znuff> btw, why is everyone so crazy about cgi-bin's?
<Redragon> oh oh yea i do
<Znuff> ?
<BlkPoohba> is there an aging/archive function for evolution?
<Redragon> -2 is the letter starting at the end of the domain name
<Redragon> so -2.1 on www.example.com would be m
<Znuff> @#$@$
<Redragon> -2.2 would be o
<Znuff> how do I get just example.com ?!
<Redragon> where +2.1 would be w
<Znuff> %-2 ?!
<Redragon> if they go to www.example.com and you want example.com it would be %2+
<Znuff> what if they go to something.like.this.example.com ?
<Redragon> then it would go to like.this.example.com
<Znuff> I'd normally want it to go to /domain/example.com/tis/like/something
<Redragon> your examples earlier were like www.example.com, mail.example.com right?
<Znuff> yeah
<Redragon> so use %2+/%1
<Redragon> that would put it in example.com/www and example.com/mail
<Znuff> aha
<Znuff> I see, but I still wonder what happens when I use multiple subdomains
<Znuff> like.this.dot.com
<Redragon> dont hehe
<Redragon> okay do it this way
<Znuff> I mean, it would be nice if I could get the variables backwards
<Znuff> if you know what I mean
<Redragon> you can
<Marios_> does anybody know what kill -11 does ? what is the difference from -9 ?
<LeBear> Just make a single vhost that mod_rewrites everything to vhostAllocator.pl and serves up the right files heh
<Redragon> try %-2+ that would always give you that last 2 parts
<Znuff> something.like.this.example.com to be mapped to: %1 .com; %2 example %3 this %4 like %5 something
<Znuff> aham
<LeBear> Marios_: man kill
<Marios_> LeBear...unfortunately I don't have the man pages installed
<LeBear> apt-get install man-pages
<Znuff> Redragon, guess I'll do trial and error untill I get it right :D
<Znuff> starting from %-2+
<Redragon> well on this.sub.example.com %-2+ will give you example.com
<Redragon> what you do after that is up to you
<Marios_> I am working in a remote shell
<Znuff> it's good enough :)
<Znuff> Marios_, so?
<LeBear> can't help you then. I've never used kill before.
<Marios_> ok thanks
<Redragon> znuff for ease i would probably limit it to 3 segments hehe
<Znuff> probably that's what I'll do too
<Znuff> but trial and error comes first :D
<Redragon> coffee time, bbiab
<Znuff> thanks a lot ;)
<Redragon> no prob
<sinthetek> hi
<ngine> what happen if there are two the same MAC address in a subnet? not IP but MAC
<sinthetek> depends on the network
<ngine> switched network, a LAN for example
<BlkPoohba> Marios_: did u find the kill info?
<sinthetek> it still depends on more specific setup
<sinthetek> but i think some/most stuff would work normally
<sinthetek> ***uming it doesn't use dhcp and/or arp a lot
<themaxxz> er ethernet does use arp all the time
<sinthetek> yeah, that's what i thought
<sinthetek> at least with all ethernet i've seen (not all that much)
<ngine> the reason I ask this because Ethereal was displaying a lot of ARP messages and I wondering if theres two MAC address the same
<sinthetek> but i figured there might be some arpless ethernet setups somewhere
<themaxxz> depends on the exact arp messages
<themaxxz> if 2 hosts with same mac are connected to the same switch, depending on the switch configuration, both hosts will get the same traffic
<sinthetek> if there are two nics with the same mac address, then one is spoofed
<sinthetek> so either you would know for sure there are two of the same mac or one of the hosts was comprimised
<themaxxz> show mac-address-table
<themaxxz> on the switch should show if you have duplicate macs
<ngine> themaxxz: so it doesn't tells you or complain that theres a duplicate ARP address?
<themaxxz> who is 'it' ?
<themaxxz> windows/linux doesnt complain no
<themaxxz> a switch should 'report' it though
<g54w> IM RUNNING IRC AS ROOT!
<themaxxz> omg!
<g54w> I also ran up the stairs yesterday with scissors! I'm totally crazy!
<g54w> like seriously...
<themaxxz> hmm
<sinthetek> who is canadian here?
<sinthetek> is higher education free in canada?
<LeBear> sinthetek: no. but it's subsidized
<sinthetek> what does that mean exactly?
<sinthetek> government co-signs on student loan?
<sinthetek> essentially*


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