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<TheZuule> yeah i'm checking that now, looks promising, would have to see it in action, would replace my limewire too
<dinux> TheZuule, I can only get fdisk in linux to create a linux filesystem, not a fat32
<sinthetek> i've been using it a few years, haven't found a more fullfeatured client yet
<TheZuule> dinux: use the help inside fdisk, it can create like 40 different types of partitions
<dinux> Yup, just found that out
<sinthetek> umm... it fdisk only creates partitions, not filesystems :P
<awpti> alright, got opennms going.. now to figure it out.
<TheZuule> sinthetek: yes but you cannot install windows on an EXT2 partition, they need to be correctly set up for the filesystem that will be installed
<sinthetek> it just writes changes to the partition table, not to the actual partition itself
<TheZuule> running fdisk and typing l will show you the huge list of parittion types available, makes the "DOS" version of fdisk look like a tinker toy
<dinux> TheZuule, thanks, it looks like it worked.
<TheZuule> dinux: awesome
<sinthetek> not contesting that, but you can't expect fdisk to create an fat32 filesystem. that is what mkfs.fat32 is for
<TheZuule> yeah and you cannot use mkfs.fat32 without first creating the empty partition afaik
<dinux> I am not wanting to install Windows on, I just want a FAT32 drive to copy my personal files stuff to so that my current Windows partition can read them
<sinthetek> my point was that fdisk doesn't create any type of filesystem, only modifies the partition table to support them
<TheZuule> sinthetek: and i never said otherwise
<TheZuule> dinux: someday NTFS support will be perfected and it won't be an issue, someday...
<sinthetek> perhaps that's why the statement wasn't directed at you
<dinux> Problem is, my Windows install wont boot, but I want to install Media Center anyways so I am trying to get all of my stuff off of my EXT3 and onto a readable FAT32
<dinux> Now to copy all 60+GB
<awpti> dinux, dualboot box?
<dinux> And hope it works
<sinthetek> dinux: i've heard of some program/plugin for windows that allows it to read text but i've never used it before
<dinux> awpti, yeah, right now anyways.
<sinthetek> nor do i know what it is called
<awpti> dinux, hmmm
<dinux> sinthetek, yeah, there is an application called ext2dos or something like that which allows Windows to read EXT filesystems
<TheZuule> dinux: soon enough the needle will be in your arm and you'll ditch the old bitch :)
<awpti> dinux, be very careful with that app. :>
<TheZuule> dinux: for almost any windoze app there's a linux equiv, for the rare occasions there isn't there's always wine
<awpti> it likes to eat ext2 file systems alive.
<dinux> Been trying for awhile now to ditch Windows. I use Linux at work, except for the testing box that I have to make sure my apps work in Internet Explorer.
<TheZuule> awpti: it only reads to prevent that from happening
<TheZuule> awpti: cannot make changes to the filesystem
<awpti> TheZuule, one i used 2 years ago destroyed my ext2fs.
<awpti> dinux, i tried to use linux only for 6 years.. ended up going back to winders in the end.
<dinux> Yeah, I just installed Media Center on my laptop. I am more happy with it that I was with XP
<dinux> Well, normal XP that is
<TheZuule> dinux: MythTV ftw!
<dinux> Yeah, MythTV is awesome, I give you that.
<awpti> now, it's linux on the servers, windows on all the desktops. if i need to test something.. i call upon the mighty Vmware.
<TheZuule> how in the hell do i start this mldonkey app?? it's telling me to run mldonkey_gui which doesn't exist....
<awpti> on a side note..
<awpti> HUNGRY MAN TV dinners for the win.
<dinux> Yeah, I have one server, which is in a DC, that runs Linux for all of my hosting and my private customers sites.
<awpti> friend of mine has started doing vmware server setups.. it's rather interesting and it works quite well.
<TheZuule> LOL it says in the other doc to run ./mlnet and then point your browser to localhost:4000 which just pops up a firefox download window asking me whether to save or open an unnamed .BIN file... wonderful
<awpti> sounds like you need to go through the documentation some more.
<dinux> awpti, looks like our part of the valley isn't going to get any rain tonight
<awpti> dinux, figures. :/
<TheZuule> the documentation is pretty clear, the Install.txt tells you to run the daemon and connect to your localhost:4000 via web browser which results in the unnamed .BIN file, the Readme.txt tells you to simply execute ./mldonkey_gui which does not exist
<awpti> gonna watch Inside Man.
<awpti> Heard it was good.
<dinux> Yeah, as did I.
<awpti> TheZuule, google.
<TheZuule> nah rm -rf
<dinux> awpti, according to weather.com, it like completely over shot us.
<awpti> that's how it usually goes here in the valley.
<dinux> Most definately.
<TheZuule> zeroone 17882 4.3 11.9 416412 92488 ? Sl 21:22 2:27 java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp /home/zeroone/azureus/Azureus2.jar:/home/zeroone/azureus/swt.jar -
<TheZuule> i mean anyone else think that's a bit ridiculous for a bittorrent client?
<reality> Not for a java based client
<TheZuule> yeah it's unfortunate that java is such a hog
<reality> So why not just use a command line client?
<TheZuule> i'm considering it, i'm kind of a feature whore when it comes to my torrents and the command line BT client doesn't give much in the realm of control or distributed networks
<TheZuule> hell i could probably run uTorrent or BitComet in WINE and have less overhead :)
<reality> What more features do you need in a client?
<TheZuule> lots of things, distributed trackers, LAN access, external seeding, etc etc
<TheZuule> the biggest feature being the distributed tracker system, without it most of my torrents lose like 2/3s of the available peers
<TheZuule> well i'm off for the night, take care everyone
<darkn3ss> 2 questions, one, in fedora core 3 it shows my sound in lspci and it says 'setting up sound' etc in the boot, but when i goto change the mixer settings in gnome, it doesnt stay up, keeps going back down
<darkn3ss> and two, how do i make my 'default system session' xfce so it doesnt go into gnome auto
<reality> darkn3ss: 1) ac97 sound card?
<darkn3ss> yea i think so
<darkn3ss> Det4100:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01)
<reality> darkn3ss: Those have a tendency to be a little buggy so you'll have to go read the alsa project page on that for help with your distro and particular card manufacturer
<darkn3ss> is there an alternative to zeta
<reality> darkn3ss: Zeta?
<darkn3ss> err
<darkn3ss> sorry
<darkn3ss> am talking about zeta in one room and alsa here
<darkn3ss> i mean to alsa
<reality> Nothing worthwhile
<reality> There's oss...but I don't know if that's even free anymore
<darkn3ss> hrms
<darkn3ss> is alsa difficult to setup?
<reality> And for your second question, is it logging you in to gnome automatically?
<reality> No, it's not hard at all
<darkn3ss> aye, ok i'll check alsa out
<reality> The alsa project homepage will have step by step directions
<darkn3ss> yea i have to select xfce session each time after puttig in my login/pw
<darkn3ss> in gdm
<reality> darkn3ss: It's not giving you the option to use that as a default session?
<darkn3ss> thats what i wanna know, how do you make xfce the default session
<reality> Do you have a /etc/sysconfig/desktop ?
<darkn3ss> lemme check
<darkn3ss> i do
<darkn3ss> and its set as gnome
<reality> Set it to xfce
<darkn3ss> xfce or XFCE
<darkn3ss> since gnome was all caps
<reality> XFCE then
<darkn3ss> yea, just did that
<darkn3ss> and it still goes to gnome
<reality> Stupid net splits
<muchacho> how do you stop firefox from rendering odt files
<muchacho> or attempting to render i should say, since it fails. i just want it to open odt files using ooo.
<muchacho> is this an issue on the webserver or on the client end?
<muchacho> how do you stop firefox from rendering odt files
<purplin> what the hell are odt files?
<muchacho> openoffice
<muchacho> odt is the opendocument text format
<muchacho> firefox tries to read it on its own
<muchacho> but obviously i want openoffice to read it
<muchacho> not sure if its something on my webserver or on my client's firefox causing the prob
<lolomg> omg whuts ur leetist haxor u did?!?!
<flush> damn.. I'm having hard times trying to reinstall grub under ubuntu
<flush> someone knows how to do it? I've followed forums and tried different ways
<flush> getting error about that the selected partition isnt a valid block device or Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
<OptimusPrime> !newspost
<OptimusPrime> Hmmmm, whats a good frontend for Newspost? Gnewspost isn't around anymore and only works with Gnome 1.x... need something a little more 'modern'
<OptimusPrime> !gnewspost
<OptimusPrime> !newsgroup
<LadyByte> from memory, newsgroup is see xcollector or pan for newsgroup readers/leechers.
<OptimusPrime> ngine: wb
<ngine> Transform!
<ngine> :)
<OptimusPrime> ngine: hey do you know of a good frontend for newspost? something that runs under GTK?
<ngine> newspost?
<ngine> is it like usenet?
<ngine> never heard of that
<OptimusPrime> newspost is a poster for nntp/news groups/usenet
<ngine> ow, here i found in google http://newspost.unixcab.org/index.html#Download
<ngine> GTK is available
<ngine> but link is not working
<OptimusPrime> ngine: yea, I was looking for a gui frontend for newspost ;-)
<OptimusPrime> ngine: gnewspost only works with Gnome-1.x
<ngine> i have a question, how do I know which DHCP server im ***ociated in linux? ifconfig doesn't provide much info
<Redragon> ngine generally you only have 1 dhcp server per subnet
<OptimusPrime> ngine: give me a sec... do you have 'netconfig'
<OptimusPrime> otherwise its under /etc/sysconfig/network/...
<ngine> hmm, this aint redhat
<ngine> debian
<Redragon> maybe /etc/network/interfaces or something like that
<Redragon> if your talking about static/dhcp configuration for a nic
<purplin> oh that's great.... this must be 8x media
<ngine> Redragon: it's dhcp, in windus if you run ipconfig /all it'll tell ya your dhcp server
<Redragon> hmm
<ngine> get it?


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