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<0> !psybnc
<1> NO WAY! Forbidden topic. bouncers ****. If you're responsible enough to use it properly, then you're responsible enough to read the docs to set it up. And don't ask where to find help: that'd be helping you.
<2> i want to share my ADSL with my hood, is there an option, to share it , without my computer to be always ON
<2> ?
<3> oldschool no
<2> AND IF i put my ADSL cable into the swtich?
<3> in most (if not all) cases, as soon as you turn your pc off, it will disconnect
<4> oldschool... buy yourself a router... that should help
<2> :(
<2> how much will cost me small router for 2 pcs?
<2> it's 20 metters.
<4> they come cheap these days
<4> i think you can get one for like 50-60 bucks
<2> how can i ask in the store?
<2> ?
<4> do you have ROUTERS ?



<2> yeah, but what kind of routeR?
<2> i mean what brand, etc?
<2> to buy one?
<4> a 4-port one... as for the brand... not CISCO
<4> they're expensive and they are the devil
<2> can it work as switch too ?
<4> :))
<4> yes
<2> switch, and router in one
<2> ?
<4> smth like that
<2> and after that i wont need to keep my pc all the time on?
<4> you will need to configure it... but it's fairly easy
<4> no
<4> just the router
<5> why is cisco the devil?
<4> cuz they're tech support ****s
<2> isnt d-link like that?
<2> ???
<2> ^Dash^?
<4> what? the devil?
<4> no
<4> d-link is cool
<0> imap is a tease....
<2> can i use my Adsl as switch and rooter?
<2> with dlink
<6> red so is i
<0> oldschool if its adsl it must be connected to a computer and the computer must be on to use the adsl
<0> if its a modem
<4> you plug your ADSL line into the router... and then use the ports it has to split the connection 4-way... 5-way... etc
<2> ok
<2> And if i get wireless user?
<0> ^Dash^ if its a modem (as most are) then adsl has to go to a computer then that computer to a hub/switch
<2> router..
<0> thats fine for lan access but if the computer with the adsl modem is shutdown then your not getting on the net
<4> well don't they use external modemes these days?
<4> they ussually have a LAN port
<2> yeah,
<2> Again i need wireless router?
<2> and then with that wireless router, i will be able to shut it down.
<2> and the other pc will get wireless network & net
<4> well this expands the subject... you get you router and the you put an AP after the router
<0> ^Dash^ even if its an external modem (ie usb) it still has to go to a computer, if its a dsl router then it goes straight to a nic or hub
<2> okz.
<4> no red... it has a LAN port... that you plug directly into the router
<0> i dont use dsl around here so i'm not sure how most companies dish it out, with modem or router
<3> oldschool you need to go read what each piece of equipment does modem router hub, and for what you want you need something that comnines at least 2 of those 3
<2> ^Dash^ , is the equipment expensive?
<0> ^Dash^ then its a router not a modem
<2> for to make a wirelessd network for 2 pc's and with router.
<3> combines*
<0> i have the same thing here with isdn and satelite
<0> hiya scot
<3> evening redragon
<4> modems can be internal and external... external ones now have more ways you can connect them to your computer
<0> ugg longword this counting thing, i'm not sure what i'm doing :)
<4> i have a coax modem and i got an USB port, LAN and Firewire
<0> i'm going to presume they need the computer for at least initial configuration and connection, after that its hard to say, one would have to check the documentation on the modem/router
<3> ^Dash^ but some iSP's still require those to dial up, and or not always on.
<4> hmm... isn't DSL a permanent connection
<4> ?



<3> no, if i switch off my gateway PC, all my computers go down, as it does the dialling connection
<0> its a permanent connection as long as the computer tells it to stay connected hehe
<4> still my thoughts are that a DSL connection can be shared via router... i do it with my cable connection
<4> TRIVIA: how do you get a Cisco Certified Network Administrator off your porch?
<4> ANSWER: pay for your pizza
<3> yes you can either use a hardware router, or a linux box doing nat, what oldschool would need is a combined modem router but to access most of them fex: linksys d-link i presume they are 'still' done thru a browser http://192.168.x.x
<0> ^Dash^ some can be, but if the computer controlling it shuts it down when its shut down you still have to keep the computer going for the connection to work
<4> well in esence... the router is a computer
<0> longword i think i came up with a solution to the viewing attached emails
<4> it even has HTTP administration
<0> lots of things do, that doesn't make them a computer
<2> ^Dash^ , do you know something about TOR proies??
<3> from a computer,
<0> my remote power strip has http admin but its not a ocmputer :)
<4> well it knows how to keep a connection alive
<4> :))
<4> the router i mean
<0> a router will, a modem may not
<0> my isdn and sat routers both keep the connection alive no matter whats on or off
<4> the router keeps the modem online... it acts just like a computer
<7> hey how can I disable the xserver from starting automatically
<0> why would you need a router on a single lan?
<7> like on boot and when I logout
<0> two|face edit /etc/inittab and set it to non gui boot up
<7> thanks
<4> wel oldscool wanted an alternative to keeping his computer online all the time...
<4> if you share your internet connection
<4> oldschool: Tor is a network of virtual tunnels that allows people and groups to improve their privacy and security on the Internet.
<7> so uh.. what was I supposed to edit :)
<7> I commented out: si::sysinit:/etc/ini.d/rcS
<2> ^Dash^ , there are ppl using tor proxies on IRC. How the tor proxy works? and, how they use, wich port, is there user/p*** needed? ...
<7> and it prevented me from booting
<3> two|face id:x:initdefault
<3> i think you want 2 instead of 5
<4> Quote: two|face edit /etc/inittab and set it to non gui boot up
<4> :)
<6> its a ScoT!
<3> its a gaia :D aloha
<6> me0w :)
<2> :P
<2> Gaia^ ,
<6> b0o
<2> Simkin , is using tor proxy
<2> Gaia^, :p
<2> u rnt irc operator?
<8> wtf "urpmi xchat-perl" asks for cd 4
<8> how many cdz does mandrake corporate bull**** has??
<3> at least 4 ? :D
<8> damn
<8> it only asked for cd3 during install at the end...
<8> they could have put xchat-perl on cd3 wtf
<8> theyre so n00b, anyway
<8> its like cd3 is "overloaded"
<8> *its not like
<8> damn, mplayer is long to compile
<9> flush: yea it is...check out how large the binary is afterwards
<8> indeed
<8> the magic of make
<9> which mplayer |xargs ls -sh
<9> 5.6M /usr/bin/mplayer
<9> flush: its chubby puppy
<8> wtf with glxgears i have 50 fps
<3> why compile it on an rpm based system ? not that i use mplayer just wondering
<8> i got nvidia drivers install, GLCore loaded, DRI loaded and glx too
<9> ScoT: there's no alpha port/rpm available for me...so I must compile away
<3> what you using Opti ?
<9> ScoT: I did roll it into an rpm btw.... afterwards
<9> ScoT: an AlphaPC 164Sx
<3> ahha
<9> ScoT: I HAVE been scoping out the AMDs on eBay... they look pretty tempting and I can play Quake I/II/III on them ;-)
<8> >>?!?1
<8> i R teh quake_master
<3> years ago when i first tried linux i tried tux-racer and it ran like an old charlie chaplin movie, i don't think i ever tried another game after that
<9> Fiona: yea, quake Cl***ic is the bomb...especially RuneQuake


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