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<0> even with -a
<1> to see if your module is loaded
<0> i promise you both, it doesn't exist
<0> and the module is loaded
<2> modules.conf or modprobe.conf is still correct?
<1> try yous network script
<1> your*
<0> i would ***ume so... i didn't change either of them
<2> ***uming is the mother of all errors
<0> this is actually a wireless driver, i was just asking hypothetically what you would do if your nic mod just stopped creating them
<0> err
<0> s/them/the interface
<1> .....
<1> googling
<0> themaxxz: i never touched any of the module parameters on this system
<0> the only other way i know it could get touched is with apt-get upgrade which i didn't perform
<2> well that doesnt mean they didnt change
<0> i did run apt-get update
<0> but i dunno if htat would do anything
<0> and i don't know what the modprobe.conf was like before
<0> and the same thing happened when the system was running slackware
<0> that is why i put debian on the gateway
<0> wifi card worked fine for like a week and then all of a sudden modprobe ath_pci autocreate=ap just stopped creating ath0 & wifi0
<2> dont know then
<0> finally i break down and put debian on there since i needed to upgrade that system anyway, and after about 2 weeks the same thing happened, this time with 2.4.x
<3> ifconfig is for ethn and iwconfig is for wifin
<0> i'm running apt-get upgrade now... hopefully that will help :\
<0> i went to try it with debian's 2.6.x earlier and for some reason it just froze when mounting root fs :(
<0> netbeui: all of the documentation i've seen references using ifconfig to set ip addresses on wireless interfaces
<1> try man iwiconfig
<1> try man iwconfig
<1> sorry
<0> netbeui: and none of them directly use wifi0
<3> sinthetek: AFAIK the tool for wireless cards is iwconfig
<0> v[V]|per[X]x: iwconfig is useless if there is no interface there to use it on
<3> well thats what iwconfig is for anyway
<0> netbeui: that is true for certain attributes, but you can use ifconfig with it as well
<0> all of the interfaces show up with ifconfig, iwconfig is only there for adding extra options related to wifi
<1> iwconfig configures the wifi interface
<1> like ifconfig
<4> hi, how do i create a tar archive but ignore hidden files?
<4> note that i am compressing using bzip with same command
<5> muchacho: man tar
<0> v[V]|per[X]x: like i said, it isn't for setting tcp/ip settings, it is only for setting 802.11 properties.
<4> hmmm ok so if i use dir/* it should work huh
<4> makes sense actually, imagine that
<5> muchacho: You'll see the -X option which will exclude from patterns from a file you create
<0> v[V]|per[X]x: if you don't take my word for it, check the iwconfig manpage for how to set/change the ip or network address for a wireless device
<1> u run debian?
<0> v[V]|per[X]x: you won't find the information there because the tool doesn't exist for that. ifconfig is used for setting such properties, iwconfig is only for 802.11 specific options
<0> amongst others, yes
<1> chech this site then http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
<1> check*
<0> i'm thinking that perhaps it is a hardware compatiblity issue... my gateway is 10 years old after all :\
<0> mmk
<5> sinthetek: What are you trying to do?
<4> reality so you're saying i could do -X .* to exclude that pattern?
<0> reality: remember when my madwifi driver quit working for no apparent reason a couple of weeks ago?
<0> reality: i put debian on my gateway hoping with proper package management and **** it would work ok but it did the same thing
<0> after like a week or two, the driver just stopped creating ath0
<4> wheenver my wifi driver stops working its cause of kernel update via yum
<5> muchacho: not quite
<4> so i have to recompile some stuff and its good again
<0> rebooted the system and the wireless lan was down (my gateway is the ap)
<5> muchacho: make a file called exclude...then add that pattern to that file, then -X filename
<0> i check network interfaces, ath0 is gone yet ath_pci is loaded
<4> your prob might be far more complex though
<5> sinthetek: Did you upgrade your kernel?
<4> reality or i could do --exclude .* right?
<5> muchacho: That'll work too
<5> muchacho: It's much easier from a list if you have multiple types of file excludes though
<5> And if you want to automate it for backup purposes
<4> ok here's another tar doozy then, i mount a samba drive but i dont want to include that mount in the tar (its backed up on the mount host already)
<0> reality: nope. didn't touch the config at all. before i put debian on here, i was using 2.6. since then i've been using 2.4. i tried booting debian into 2.6 when i noticed this happening again but it hung at mounting root fs for some reason :\
<0> s/config/kernel
<4> but of course my client just sees it as a dir in my home dir and adds it to the tar
<5> muchacho: unmount the directory
<4> on the wifi, even a minor kernel update makes me reinstall it
<4> reality the tar is done via crond so i dont want to unmount in case some file is being used on the mount
<5> muchacho: Then use an exclude
<4> i was about to add: i guess i can just do --exclude /mount/point/dir huh?
<5> Yep
<4> KLOSE was close!
<4> he should have had that one.
<6> Sorry, got disconnected at home
<6> sinthetek: Do you have the madwifi source in /usr/src?
<4> reality didnt work, i used tar -pj -cvf --exclude /mounteddir filename /dir/to/backup
<6> Put the exclude stuff last
<6> Or before the -cvf
<4> what, even after the /dir/to/backup?
<6> Yeha
<6> Yeah
<6> --exclude takes multiple inputs
<0> reality: there is a madwifi .deb there
<0> don't see source/src in the filename, but i am in the middle of upgrade now so that might be a factor...
<6> sinthetek: What's the .deb called?
<0> madwifi-ng-modules-2.4.27-2-586tsc_0.svnr1611.20060527-1+2.4.27-12_i386.deb
<6> Looks like a previously built modules package
<6> sinthetek: What version of debian?
<0> testing
<6> sinthetek: And you say you're using a 2.6 kernel?
<7> Evening Gaia
<7> Got a delivery date yet?
<0> no, 2.4
<8> longword tomoroow one hopes :)
<6> sinthetek: 2.4.27-2?
<0> i tried to boot debian into 2.6 when madwifi died but it hung when mounting root fs
<0> i had it working with 2.6 in slackware before i put debian on here, though
<0> yep
<6> sinthetek: Can you apt-get install madwifi-source?
<0> err... actually it's 2.4.27-2-586tsc
<6> sinthetek: Yeah
<9> yo.
<6> Can you get that package?
<9> vedi, veni, spammi
<0> Package madwifi-source is a virtual package provided by:
<0> madwifi-ng-source 0.svnr1611.20060527-1
<9> http://digg.com/design/Styling_Checkboxes_and_Radio_Buttons_in_Pure_CSS
<9> go digg it.
<6> sinthetek: Yeah, grab that
<6> madwifi-ng-source
<0> crap, this apt-get upgrade i was trying is erroring out with postfix :\. it's looking for aliases.db but when i create it with postalias, it seems to delete it or something and error out again
<6> It shouldn't cause it to error out
<0> and now it's blocking madwifi
<4> reality hey i've got a dumb file named --exclude due ot my preveious errors, how do i rm this hting?
<0> Running newaliases
<0> postalias: fatal: open /etc/postfix/aliases.db: No such file or directory
<6> muchacho: rm "--exclude"
<6> sinthetek: fatal to postfix install...not to apt-get
<4> reality nope still thinks its an option to rm
<6> muchacho: rm *exclude
<4> same
<4> tried mv too
<6> rm -- --exclude
<9> rm -- --exclude
<0> reality: it continues on to list all the other mail stuff and says it's not installed and does the same thing when i try to apt-get install madwifi
<0> madwifi-source*
<6> sinthetek: apt-get -f install
<4> worked, so what is that -- mean
<4> ie why did it work?
<6> muchacho: Because that's how it works
<6> muchacho: man rm
<6> sinthetek: or just touch /etc/postfix/aliases.db
<9> it's added exactly -so- you can do things like rm files like --crap
<9> hey, has anyone here played with apache 2.2 and large files?
<9> friend of mine's having issues using it to serve up 4gb files... always cuts off just before 2GB
<9> and yet it's apparently compiled with large file support
<0> reality: it isn't working
<6> Make sure the ISP allows it
<10> is the isp limiting it?
<6> sinthetek: What's the error?
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