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<0> Azeem: as in, you cannot USE .bash_profile or .profile with tcsh
<1> longword have you had any customers that use the verisign payment system?
<1> its some php gizmo system that requires special libraries be built for php
<1> pfpro libraries
<2> so wat should i use
<3> I think it's... .tcshrc?
<0> gosh darn. That's magic!
<0> CeruleanD: lol. At least it was only a kick...
<3> True, true, much better than a kick and ban.
<0> /msg X ban Cerulean0 2400 300 go way and pester someone else
<0> on.
<0> bad ban.
<3> Noooo
<3> I like it hear. It's cozy.
<3> Er, here
<4> Redr: We don't support any of the exotic payment gateways ourselves



<4> .login ~= .profile
<4> .b isabel29
<1> longword: only had 1 request so far but if I move them to new server its gonna be a royal pita cause new server has php 5.1.4 and they took payflow out at 5.1
<1> so they get to sit on old box till it rots hehe
<4> Nice.
<4> We don't even accept PayPal
<1> it has 5.0.4 on it or something like that
<1> does paypal require something server side? like pay flow?
<1> i like the way the big CC gateways do it
<4> Haven't a clue. The Control Panel server has no PHP on it at all anyway
<1> on places like authorize.net and the other true CC gateways its all on their server, doesn't require anything special on yours
<5> hmm its not using port 3386
<1> what isn't maxx?
<5> ggsn
<5> or actually sgsnemu isnt
<5> ggsn is listening on it
<1> umm isn't 3386 mysql?
<6> 3306
<5> nope 3386 is GTP
<1> fuzzy brain, lack of sleep hehe
<5> I'm seeing traffic on 2152 but thats about it
<7> What is the command for making a new user with minimum rights?
<5> so that is gtp-u
<0> tafsen: adduser, edit shell to /dev/null
<3> Sorry Redragon^, when you said fuzzy brain, I just got a weird mental image, hehe
<0> Redragon^: lol. WHAT*?
<1> useradd -s /bin/nologin <username>
<1> tis what switches are for :)
<0> Guess that'll work. I just thought /dev/null was smarter
<1> Viking667 i just tend to thwap folks that mention "edit" when it comes to a user
<1> i try to derail anyone editing p***wd, group, shadow by hand :)
<1> its just bad habit to get into, anything you need to modify can be modified with usermod or set with useradd when creating new accounts
<0> usermod?
<0> ohhh.
<8> very funny, thegewp. rebooting an irc server without prior notice.
<1> yup yup, very hand program for modifying any field in /etc/p***wd for a user
<0> wow. Didn't even know it existed. I know of useradd/userdel/adduser/deluser
<0> oh, and chsh
<0> (and of COURSE, p***wd, newgrp and one or two others)
<9> sinthetek: then again, spam can be sent in the m***ive amounts from open isp in the *** end of nowhere by a single person. on the other hand, i agree with you - how dare they limit access to the 'net arbitrarily? its just...wrong
<0> personally, I won't sign up with a ISP that restricts the ability to set up servers on my own system that I WANT to be available from the outside.
<1> Viking667 i have a split outlook on that
<0> Redragon^: mmmm. Understandably so.
<5> unless
<1> they are doing it to protect themselves as any machine running thru their network they are responsible for under the digital millineum act
<10> dragonk: yeah, that is kinda like the klingon 'guilty until proven innocent' mantra thing
<1> and the problem isn't folks like us that setup good servers on them, its the idiots that don't setup stuff correctly or care to maintain them
<10> dragonk: personally i feel that by restricting unwary/ignorent users, it would encourage them to learn minimal system admin/security necessities
<0> but they only bitch and moan cos they can't be "leet"
<10> and they wouldn't be that hard to pick out. it's not hard to detect sequential arp who-has requests and determine if they're coming from codered
<0> And I get the impression that "minimal" just doesn't cut it any more.
<10> or to tell that certian hosts are sending a lot of random strings on port 25
<10> Viking667: minimal precautions would probably cut the virus/worm propagation by a substantial amount i think
<0> hopefully.
<10> well, regardless, we know it'd help a little. hell, maybe more people would get fed up with having to use 20 different AV's with windows and switch to linux :)
<9> stupid thing is, it doesn't actually help stop ignorant or malicious users, it only punishes those who want to use their computers as the 'net was built to
<0> I ended up being the unwitting victim of Ramen one day. Was doing some setup work for someone remotely, when they emailed me with a short curt note, saying their system had been compromised with Ramen, and that I needed to get back to him to convince them it wasn't me.



<11> then they'd just let a ****load of badly configured linux boxes loose and make us all look bad
<0> unfortunately, I never heard back from him.
<10> dragonk: what punishes them? i'm talking about automatically disconnecting hosts after detecting worm/drone/dos activity
<10> well, after detecting a certain amount to it
<10> and then giving the users a certain amount of time to comply with security proceedures before suspending their access for X amount of time
<10> s/to it/of it
<10> then if they violate the security policies by allowing themselves to get infected a certain amount of times, they are blacklisted from the isp
<10> you could use cablemodem firmware upgrades to implement most of it
<10> i think
<12> hy
<13> i just made 2 years with my gf. I'm getting engaged next month
<12> ?
<13> uhm
<13> sorry, wrong win
<0> sinthetek: mmmmm. What about say, inbuilt firewalls?
<12> how can i install GCC compiler
<0> we don't help .rotards
<10> 'inbuilt'? you mean in the cablemodem or what?
<13> .kb ovidiupal mai bine nu.
<13> (mai bine nu = better not in .ro ;)
<6> haha ".rotards" got here?
<6> that term is spreading heh
<0> madalin-: a word?
<10> that's kinda what i was thinking of... some sort of stateful packet inspection
<13> Viking667; madalin as in MADALIN or .rotards ?
<10> based on rules provided by an isp supplied definition rule/definition server
<10> supplied daily*
<10> i dunno, maybe something like that
<0> Revenger: a word?
<13> really ? How ?
<13> i'm sitting in bed :P
<13> it's a Belkin. The keyboard also
<0> distance has something to do with it, the same for orientation. Mine's RF, not infrared.
<11> and they don't work well if the reciever is on a huge hunk of metal
<13> the receiver is 20 cms from the mouse lol
<13> probably the batteris
<11> ahh.. mine is across the room..
<0> weird. What's the battery charge like?
<11> irc on a 9' screen with a wireless kbd and mouse :)
<13> and Viking667, madbovine not all .ro are rotards ;)
<13> haha
<11> I just take the laptop to bed.. when it gets cold out I just compile kernels to keep me warm
<0> No laptop here, so wife doesn't get to grizzle. Oh yeah, and power goes off each night on these.
<13> i'm on a laptop. A very stupid one. It's a packard-bell with 1GB ram, and an Intel M processor..but still gives me headaches
<11> ahh.. mine is a 5 year old Acer PIII-M with 1GB..
<13> after two weeks i started having problems with the soundcard. It simply stopped working. Enabble/disable wouldnt help. Only reboot
<11> held together with duct tape and superglue.. but I love it
<13> i tried reinstalling the drivers. Same sh*t
<0> I do have ONE really REALLY big bitch with ubuntu, though.
<11> eww.. intermittent
<0> In fact, I'm thinking of removing a daily cronjob because of it.
<13> i'm on ubuntu's .ro locoteam
<11> I've heard ubuntu rocks..
<13> i like it
<0> Well, you know how there's a daily update of debs?
<13> for real.
<11> it's debian based.. it's gotta be good
<13> yes, it's debian based
<0> On my system, if I'm not online, the ubuntu system nukes the installed packages list it knows about.
<6> madalin-: I agree. I am .ro.
<0> i.e. "Nuke Original list. Is the updated list there? No. damn"
<11> oh.. yuk.. thats a horrid way to do it..
<13> Viking667; lol. Now i think you should take a look into that and report a bug ;)
<11> which version of ubuntu are you running ?
<0> whereas if I'm online, it's "Nuxe original list. Find new list, download. Good."
<0> Badger
<11> hrm.. I've just finished downloading whatever the latest cd installer is to arc up in qemu and have a play..
<0> And frankly I'm _*SICK*_ of re-retrieving crap I downloaded nineteen times ALREADY</yell>
<13> perplex_afk; i dont run linux atm. I'm on a bussines trip abroad .ro. I had badger at home
<11> can you just tell it not to do the autoupdate ?
<11> oh.. I have linux on my laptop also.. so I'm kind 24/7 linux..


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