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<0> I've got a 1250 about that and the graph says about 20% load.
<0> 1250 with about that much equipment, that is.
<1> i'm going to buy a 600VA 360W
<1> will that be good ?
<0> If that provides sufficient capacity, then fine.
<1> i don't know if it provides
<0> as tojoe said, measure, then you know what your load is, then you can calculate based on how long you want the equipment to stay up.
<1> how do i measure?
<1> since lmsensors is not in the repos ( i don't know why )
<0> The 1250 I have is ridiculously over-provided... but I got it for free and all I had to do was replace the batteries in it. :)
<2> buy/borrow a power-meter
<0> What would lmsensors have to do with it?
<1> i thought it could help on the voltages.
<2> heh, yeah, thats how i got mine - $boss insisted on a new ups and not just new batteries
<0> My fileserver, my windows box, and my Mac share a 1400.
<1> since a power-meter i don't have where to borrow, and i don't know how much it could cost, and i really am lowbudget here.



<2> synaptic you can get one here for 20-30 euro so i guess they must be cheaper in the states
<1> what is line interactive ?
<0> I have a 900 sitting over in the corner keeping its batteries charged, but I have no load for it at the moment. :)
<1> tojoe: i'm in .gr now.
<2> oh, gr, wonder if they actually sell something like that there :p
<1> ok, it's a "line interactive" ups, what does that mean?
<0> I pitched a ton of UPS's when I moved that just needed batteries.
<1> i have never worked with UPS` vefore.
<1> s/vefore/before
<2> synaptic what make/modell are you looking at?
<1> tojoe: http://www.plaisio.gr/IWCatProductPage.process?Catalog_Id=1&Secton_id=835&Product_Id=274750
<1> it's in greek and i don't understand a bit of it.
<1> cause i'm not greek :/
<1> just the va and w part
<2> hmm, a mge
<2> never had one of those
<1> but what's line interactive? there are online ( > 1200E ) line interactive ( cheap ones )
<2> line interactive means it'll switch to battery when line power is gone
<1> and another type ..
<1> and "Stand By"
<2> online means the load always runs via the inverter
<2> which usually makes it quite a bit more expensive
<1> and http://www.plaisio.gr/IWCatProductPage.process?Catalog_Id=1&Secton_id=836&Product_Id=84129
<1> this is a "Stand By"
<1> what's that?
<3> !bugs erp
<2> dunno, never heard about that, afaik those things are line interactive as well
<1> but it says USB
<2> go to apcc.com and check it out yourself
<1> what the hell should USB have to do with that?
<1> ok, thanks.
<1> so which one should i chose, the last one or the mge ?
<0> USB is for monitoring.
<2> dunno but the mge looks like the cheap crap i can buy around here which has square-wave output
<1> that means ? :)
<0> So that your machine can tell if it's on battery, among other things.
<0> synaptic: square-wave bad, sine-wave good. That's all you need to know.
<1> so i should take damn
<1> damn
<1> ok, so that mge isn't good uhm.
<2> dont find it on the mge homepage
<1> the apc thing looks ... not good... what do you think about it.
<1> i hate greece
<2> if you can spend that much better have a look at the more expensive linbe interactive units from apc or mge
<2> those powerstrips usually have a very poor battery
<1> i need it to last 3 minutes max
<2> iirc apcc's homepage had a runtime-calculator
<1> ah, i'll check it out.
<1> and the mge?
<4> it still does
<1> hey there Fiver
<2> dunno, i'm not keeping track of their hp
<5> hey I have a perl process that is using 90% of my cpu how can I find out where its coming from, I jus tkilled it a few minutes ago
<1> forkbomb
<1> :)
<6> two|face when it runs get its command line call from /proc/<pid>
<1> Redragon^: did you solve the problem with cbc ?
<6> yes
<6> until next release revert to 2.15
<6> after next release is will fully support 2.17
<5> ok thanks



<1> Redragon^: it works with 2.17 :)
<1> here.
<5> says its coming from proftpd, does that sound right that proftpd would execute a perl script? :)
<6> it shouldn't without mod but who knows
<6> two|face it shouldn't
<1> Redragon^: the thing is i installed gnuhh over 2.17 ... and it works..
<6> it might work if you start with 2.17
<6> but if you started with < 2.17 and upgrade cbc to 2.17 you definately have issues
<1> it works.
<1> uhm.
<6> because of the encryption method previous to 2.17 being based on 7bit instead of 8bit random salts
<6> did you make any changes to gnuhh?
<1> Redragon^: no.
<6> and thats with the cpan 2.17?
<1> yes, i used the cpan to install all needed modules.
<5> I take it cmdline is supposed to tell me where it came from?
<6> really not sure why it works for you hehe
<1> hehe
<6> two|face maybe, it will simply give the command line issued entry to start the process
<1> well it's 8bit random salt from the beginning right? so there is no problem decrypting it.
<6> yea but it should have been called different
<6> originally i used new Crypt::CBC(key,type)
<1> well i really don't know, but it works.
<6> but in 2.17 it should be called Crypt::CBC->new({-key=>$key,-cipher=>$type,$salt=>$salt});
<1> still, it works :)
<6> and i'm having a continued conversation with author of CBC
<6> he said the legacy and randomiv usage with AES is bad thing to do
<6> so waiting for his suggestion and then i'll have to see what I have to do to make encryption tighter
<1> so a big part of gnuhh will be modified.
<1> the other thing could be that 2.17 probably has backwards compat and could use 7bit and 8bit salts
<6> every call to CBC was changed for next release and may be changed some more :)
<6> yes thats what i'm using right now
<6> it tests for version of CBC and acts appropriately
<6> but if there is a significant weakness in the 7bit system I will have to look at an upgrade path to newer encryption without loss of data
<6> with all the encrypted data it could be significant feat
<1> hehe.
<6> i'm figuring on adding an encryption upgrade function should I need it
<6> it would dump the db for backup purposes then read in all encrypted data, decrypt it, re-encrypt it in the new format, and store it under the new encryption
<1> uhm
<1> that is really necessary?
<6> if the 7bit is as weak as he claims i believe so
<6> one thing i prize over all other things is my security measures in my software :)
<1> well, try to crack a 7bit
<1> you will see how secure it is.
<6> well as it stands right now it will support the old system on any cbc release out (the updates that is)
<1> uhm.
<6> if i can get this darn spell checker done and settle on what i'm doing with CBC i can get another release out hehe
<1> 2.0 ? :)
<6> and one can expect some major enhancements to the page editor function in the client in the near future based on this stuff i'm working on now
<6> yea i'm going to 2.0 with the addition of the webmail
<1> Redragon^: and the reseller system?
<6> not yet
<1> hehe
<1> damn, lots of output in syslog
<6> that is so m***ively complex its unreal
<6> the dynamic nature of the system has made the reseller system very complex
<1> Mar 12 21:55:02 ventosus sm-mta[29534]: k2CJt29s029534: from=<www-data@ventosus.ubuntuserver.be>, size=742, cl***=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200603121955.k2CJt2KC029533@ventosus.ubuntuserver.be>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MSP-v4, relay=www-data@ventosus.ubuntuserver.be [127.0.0.1]
<1> this is a normal sendmail syslog line right ?
<6> yup
<1> syslog-ng even
<6> one of about 4 per email
<1> i'll try to filter it.
<6> more if your running SA and/or clamav
<6> i get about 9 lines per incoming email atm
<6> hiya digi
<7> her redr
<5> so if a perl script is being run by apache its proably be executed via a script right? any way to find out where that script is? /proc/<pid>/cmdline only said it was /usr/bin/proftpd
<6> two|face that sounds like an injection
<6> two|face you use apache2 package install?
<1> injection via proftpd ?
<1> anybody here using syslog-ng?
<5> yeah I think its something fishy, not sure its been up for a while, came with the sever :) yeah its apache2 though
<5> probably package install
<8> no its injection via php


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