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<0> Now, suppose I don't have a package component, like depmod
<1> I haven't looked at that particular page, don't have a great browser on this box, it's console only
<0> or pppd
<1> padge: first of all, what distribution are you using
<0> Slack 10.2
<2> I have a little question about CVS
<1> padge: which flavor? Well since you are such a newbie I would suggest a different distro, like Fedora Core
<0> I didn't know slackware came in flavors. I did only find one set of disc images that pertained to my platform.
<1> padge: linux comes in flavors, I didn't edit my sentance...
<1> you responded in the middle of my typing... anyway...
<0> sorry :)
<1> I would look at Fedora, Mandrake, or Suse they are generally more newbie friendly



<1> second thing, why are you trying to compile the kernel?
<3> i couldn't get anywhere with fedora as a newbie
<0> digiobi: I'm particularly interested in slackware because it forces me to learn and understand before I can do things. I've gotten myself to where I can get a good few things done, inside and outside of the X environment.
<4> heh I thikn I found which site it was ;)
<3> slack was much more user friendly
<4> whoever it was replaced the index by "you ar hacked etc"
<4> do logs keep information about if someone was diong an injection or uploaded a file?
<1> okay, I know I was originally on slack back in 96, and I know I haven't used it since, I know from others it's not more friendly then Mandrake and Fedora, but YMMV i guess
<0> digiobi: I'm interested in compiling a kernel for two reasons. One is that I'm running on a P Pro 200 with 64 megs right now, and I'd like to build the modules I need into the kernel so that I can have the gains of a monolithic kernel
<3> you just have to make intensive use of the man command and /usr/doc
<0> digiobi: the other is that I want to rebuild the kernel for it's own sake. I want to be a ninja ;)
<5> kernel how-to, www.tldp.org
<6> pls how can i select with sed character 5 to 10 ?
<1> well padge, it's noe of those you need to be patient with and learn through doing and fixing each problem as it arises
<3> man sed maybe
<7> What gains of a monolithic kernel?
<0> digiobi: Slackware is still, I think, relatively unfriendly, at least compared to RedHat. All I had was an email from the guy that arranged slackware. I had enough experience from using a shell on my ISP to read it with pine
<1> use the kernel howto that I posted and znuff just re-posted... follow everything it says
<0> mwilson: reducing the communications overhead of coordinating seperate threads
<8> + improving security
<3> there's a good guide at linuxquestions.org stickied in the slackware forum
<1> umm padge, adding modules don't make it more monolithic
<0> I want the tightest possible kernel that goes "Zing!" when it runs.
<3> hehe
<8> harden it with grsecurity
<0> mwilson: could you please shut the hell up or get lost?
<8> btw - people who want it tight are pervs :-p
<3> mine goes "brum"
<7> padge: I can't help it... you're just *so* funny. Where did you get that last one?
<0> ArmOrAttAk: Well, there are advantages to that too :)
<0> mwilson: hold on, I'll dig it up for you.
<1> padge: there are benefits to modules, but speeding things up from as far as I know isn't one of them
<1> of course I'm not an expert and don't claim to be, I leave that to longword :)
<0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_kernel
<5> ewww, SLACKWARE
<0> mwilson: There you have it. What I can't understand is the desire to make fun of people for being ignorant on any givin topic.
<9> Who me what?
<0> Oh, he stirs :)
<1> long: oh just saying you know all, nothing big :)
<9> I see.
<8> now that sirmaxxz left, longword has time all of a sudden. i think they been snuggling in private :-p
<1> padge: linux is a monolithic kernel period, moving stuff to modules isn't making it more monolithic
<8> modular. linux is a modular kernel
<8> richard stallman is dreaming about a monolite ... kernel
<10> longword, you've used phpbb before, right?
<9> Yup
<0> digiobi: okay. Well, this is a contributing motivator to my desire to rebuild: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html#WHY-REBUILD
<1> long only snuggles with penguins :P
<8> digiobi, or _the_ penguiness, so to say :)
<1> exactly lol



<9> padge: There's little wrong with the kernel that shipped with your distribution
<7> padge: Uh, this is a discussion of microkernels vs monolithic. The Linux kernel is a monolithic kernel, modules or no.
<6> pls how can i select with sed character 5 to 10 ?
<8> digiobi, i wonder at what age their kid would start hacking
<0> longword: I hear the 2.6.---- has a better scheduler
<1> tuxx, btw do I know you, were you someone else before?
<1> tuxx: it will be hacking in the womb lol
<1> padge: r you on 2.4?
<8> digiobi, yes, i am a famous nick changer :)
<0> yes
<9> padge: If your distribution didn't ship with a 2.6 kernel you should upgrade to a distribution that does
<0> About that software requirements things
<1> padge: I agree with long, you won't get support doing that major of an upgrade anywhere lol
<0> I meet about half of them
<9> padge: There's a lot of userspace changes required to take full advantage of a 2.6 kernel
<0> (the ones I have anyway)
<1> padge: nobody really does that without doing a distro upgrade
<10> longword, ever have phpbb start eating forums? i can see them in the admin page, but they dont show up in the index
<1> tuxxboxx: that doesn't help me any... what country are you in lol
<8> yeah, it will get interesting when you switch from hotplug to udev and several applications need tweaking
<0> longword: I trust your wisdom, but I haven't broken linux yet, and I won't be content until I finally do ;)
<1> padge: I'm done helping u until you get to a 2.6 distro lol
<0> digiobi: It's understandable, and I'm not mad.
<1> tuxxboxx: I don't think I know you then
<8> digiobi, yeah, 7-8 years ago i did not even know that something like linux exists :)
<1> the last 2 years, since I left the programming ranks at work I have been in and out of this place... mainly in the last year since I went to China for 6 months
<8> wow. interesting experience i bet
<4> so the files I found in /tmp were not named with a hash, would this indicate an exploit in one of my scripts?
<9> Named with a what?
<4> like MSRml.txt
<4> index.html, index.php
<4> .bakulu
<9> What's in the .txt file?
<4> "You are hacked by aleks"
<9> I see.
<9> And you suspect this file may be a Bad File? :)
<4> I turned off uploads for now and redragon helped me set it to noexec
<4> haha
<4> yeah
<1> yeah tuxx a great experience, if I was smart I would find an idea for a startup and do it out there with the costs of development so low
<4> after I set /tmp to noexec though the perl process popped up again
<11> i'm having trouble getting grub installed on this new hd
<9> Check /var/tmp and /dev/shm
<4> both are emtpy
<9> Those two filesystems ought to be mounted noexec,nosuid too
<4> I turned off php uploads in php.ini and it seems to have fixed it
<4> ok
<9> Did you use the -a option when listing the directories?
<4> yep
<11> i even used grubconfig this time and it still didn't work. for sda2 (/), it says the fs can't be recognized/mounted. and when i selected the option for sda4 (/boot) it said it's not a valid partition :\
<9> sin: You using the --recheck option?
<11> sda2 is reiser4, so i guess that that's the problem. i read somewhere grub needed a reiser4 patch or something but i was hoping i wouldn't
<11> no
<11> i will now
<4> hey thanks for the help guys I think its all taken care of for now
<1> hey viking
<12> Hi there, digiobi
<12> I've been busy the past two days or so...
<1> lol, I haven't been :P
<12> rfcshow has been getting a makeover, now it does bcp, fyi and std docs from rfc-editor.org now.


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