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<0> as much as ie ever works
<0> which is to say, it crashes more or less about as often as id expect it to on windows
<0> 3-5 times per 24 hour period
<1> did you get any malware yet? ;)
<0> not yet, but it is trying
<0> ive confused the poor beast
<0> it keeps asking to install activex components though
<2> lol.
<0> trying to make my website run in ie too, is the only reason
<0> but i dont think theres much hope, id do better to optimize for lynx
<2> Redb3ard: huh?
<0> viking, ie doesnt support xhtml, so i need a workaround for that
<0> all my javascript is screwed
<0> all my svg applets are screwed
<0> none of the css ive written works in IE (though in nearly everything else)
<2> Redb3ard: by the way, got your DOCTYPE set CORRECTLY?



<2> Redb3ard: for some stupid reason, IE makes that puppy case sensitive. If you mess up the case, it rejects it.
<3> have you ever google'd "communist manifesto" and read it?
<4> i stopped even trying to make ie compliant code a while ago
<4> let everyone realize how crappy ie really is
<0> viking, its that ie doesnt support proper xhtml mime types
<2> oh far out.
<2> sourry
<4> start telling people to install a different browser if they say your site doesn't look right
<0> which i need for the most part... you cant do compound svg+html without them on correct browsers
<4> s/different/decent
<0> so, i have to come up with some hack to serve html mime type to ie, so it can try to render it in quirks mode
<0> sinthetek, hoping to make some money off the site...
<0> but yeh, they may need to use a real browser
<0> its not a site they should be going to at work either, so theres really no excuse for IE
<4> Redb3ard: exactly. you're not gonna make more money if you're blowing it all cuz if time/expenses used having to update your site everytime a new ie is released
<5> It'll all be OK when IE7 comes out...
<2> right. Time I banned that .....
<6> ie is a very terrible web browser.
<0> haha
<6> but i blame all the retards who cater to it
<0> ie7 doesnt support xhtml either
<4> different versions of ie support different stuff and each time you have to update to support a new ie, you have to make sure it stays compatible with standards or something
<6> ie7 doesn't do didly squat except add tabbed browsing and popup blocking.
<2> whew. Done.
<6> sinthetek, i think you mean incompatible with standards.
<0> sinthetek, not supporting IE means 85% of people cant view it, cant pay me
<0> then again, anyone using IE is probably too stupid to use this site
<4> TheSimkin: i'm referring to the site/coding
<6> Redb3ard, you could just put google's download firefox on your page. make a dollar each time someone downloads that :)
<4> TheSimkin: if a new version of ie comes out that supports new features or old ones in a different way
<0> thesimkin, i might
<4> you will have to find yet *another* way to recode the site that waorks with ie and is still standard compliant
<4> works*
<0> sinthethek, even if i make all the js and css work with it... im left without a way to do the svg applets
<0> adobe's stinky svg plugin ****s ***
<6> that it does!!
<4> there's that, too :P
<6> plus maybe i did something wrong, but i couldn't make my manipulations with javascript work with the adobe plugin
<4> and if ms ever comes out with an svg implementation, i bet it will be just as good as their css
<4> then you will get to have some *real* fun
<0> thesimkin, you're doing svg too?
<0> kick***
<6> i love svg
<0> supposedly, ie5 has VML, or vector markup language
<0> which is like svg on thorazine
<6> i program for a closed group of people
<6> generally my customers.
<0> http://pdatabase.dyndns.biz/test11.php - inverse kinematics in svg, drag the green circle
<6> so i can just code to standards and get them to use ff
<6> Redb3ard, !
<6> that's cool!!
<0> opera 9 tp2 works just as well... anything i get working in firefox, works in it
<0> and supposedly safari isnt far behind, nor konq
<0> thesimkin, want to see 3d rendering in svg?
<0> http://pdatabase.dyndns.biz/test9.php
<0> rotation doesnt work, but movement does... just drag it
<0> you can select in what directions too, with the radio buttons
<7> redragon: have you gotten anywhere?
<6> Redb3ard, that's great
<6> all i've done is pie charts and stuff!



<6> lol
<8> digi nope
<8> playing with something else atm
<4> ok, i'm about to migrate my system...
<2> whoo hoo!!!
<0> wait til you see the end result... trying to make a 3d dimensional, posable human stick figure
<9> u caught an owl?
<4> are there any filesystems better suited to raid support?
<6> anyhow
<6> i'm gonna go see my gf
<4> like maybe they can better take advantage of file organizational/recovery capabilities of it?
<6> sinthetek, raid should be transparant to the fs i think.
<4> something also easily scalable when i add drives and with some nice extended security attributes
<8> gah where is the freakin ident..
<4> just cuz the fs doesn't see it doesn't mean it isn't affected
<4> i mean... i would think, heh
<6> if you can extend your raid you should be able to resize your fs to use it
<6> reiser and ext3 can both be resized.
<6> although i dunno if you can do either without umounting first
<4> reiser 3 had a couple of quirks with resizing
<4> dunno about 4, but both fair kinda badly when dealing with large files
<6> how so?
<6> i've had no problems with large files and reiser
<4> which i'm thinking i will use my old 20gb ide for a backup with xfs for larger files
<6> but maybe my large files are not your large files
<6> 2gb+ is what i consdier large files though
<4> well, looking at benchmarking and reports and such, when moving large files betwixt filesystems and such takes a long time
<4> also so do large number of file deletes and stuff
<4> cuz reiser4 doesn't use a balanced/symetrical tree structure thing
<6> i don't usually delete large numbers of large files so that's never really been a bother to me
<4> the data isn't aligned
<6> nor do i often copy large files between systems.
<4> i don't really do it that often either
<6> but deletes are slow
<4> but
<6> but it uses sub block allocation.
<6> so you get better use of the drive.
<6> there are trade offs
<6> but i'm happy with them
<6> i use reiser more often than not.
<4> well, that's why i am looking to see which i need for which partitions/drives...
<8> errrgggg
<4> i've been using reiser for longer than ext3 and never had too many problems with it
<6> i just set up a second 750gb software raid 5 array
<6> this time using sata
<4> but i never had a fs bigger than 20gb either
<6> it's working out just great
<4> i now have 120gb and it's supposed to be sort of a production server
<6> well i now have two 750gb reiserfs fs's
<6> and no problems so far
<4> 750gb used or total?
<6> one is full
<6> one is now about 10% full
<10> hi all
<6> the full one ata
<8> hmm
<10> anyone here used quicktables?
<2> good.
<2> oh.
<7> a cl***ic topic lol
<9> yep :)
<11> why doesnt audacity compile
<2> flush: what error are you getting?
<11> make[1]: *** [obj/effects/ladspa/LoadLadspa.o] Error 1
<2> !paste
<12> More than 3 lines? Paste your stuff at http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/ and then tell us the url it gives you.
<11> ok
<2> you'll need more than just one line before we can help you. This ain't Microsoft, ya know! <grin>
<11> http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/2031
<11> roflrofl, yeah youre right
<8> why oh why do things not work like i want
<11> i had another problem before this one
<9> cos thats life?
<11> but on a forum i found out that i had to comment 2 lines in a file


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