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<0> my internet stuff is changin soon
<0> yeah
<0> if you mean getlinuxhelp.org
<0> well, i host them, i dont "maintain" them so much
<1> Cripes. I'm trying to download a file from a website that keeps dropping the connection every so often.
<1> Lol. The driver's for my Voodoo2 under XP
<2> Viking667!
<1> lapducky!
<1> Good to see ya!
<2> Try dowloading through a proxy.
<3> i do kinda, haven't had an update in ages, vox never sent me a new page for samba
<4> hi, whenever i try to make a new perl program in kdevelop, i get 'no language plugin for perl found'
<1> won't work. Caches the broken portion.
<4> can anyone help?
<4> is my kdevelop messed up or something?
<1> I've just got wget in -t0 mode...
<5> i ran a netstat -rn on this rescue env to try and find out the gateway server
<3> never used anything but vi and nano/pico for writing perl :)
<5> it lists 10.255.255.1
<5> could that be right? its on a totally different subnet
<1> Redragon^: gawd, why use nano or pico? Vim is the only one I seem to use. I've even installed vim onto my XP machine. lol... it's in two places at the moment, as I've got a Win32-native and a cygwin/cygwin-X version too.
<4> can anyone help me?
<6> If you have a question, just go for it
<1> hush, lady. He did ask.
<1> hello again, jesh.
<2> gileswww, a gateway does not need to be on the same subnet, as long as it's A. directly connected to the same switch fabric as the host(s) that need to access or B. there's a (properly configed) router that is. Or C. the host(s) have some 'local' way to find it (i.e a static routing entry loaded in local FIB/cache).
<4> hi
<1> Sorry I don't actually know the answer to your question. Do you have perl installed?
<4> yea i do
<4> there was a scratch on the cd when i installed slack
<2> Any of those or/or/ not and/and, etc., I mean
<4> might be that
<1> Then I'm at a loss, I haven't used perl enough times to know, nor have I used KDevelop enough times.
<0> my servers are getting a fibre connection from verizon
<0> the only downside so far is that i loose my /29
<1> *sigh* - 44% and 19 connection attempts later...
<2> gileswww, I use all three IANA private (reserved) networks in my LAN.
<0> and i only get 5 static ips...
<1> TheGewp: does that mean you'll have to NAT?
<2> packets get around and find their ways through the gateway.
<1> oh. five.
<0> Viking667: actually, im only really using 5 now anyway
<0> most of them can be consolodated
<1> ahh.
<0> Viking667: the cool part is, its a 15Mbit/2Mbit connection :)
<1> now THAT'S worth it.
<0> aye
<0> Reve is gonna flip his lid...
<0> heh
<1> mmmm. That reminds me - I need to go chase prices for our ADSL here.
<2> TheGewp, and how quickly can you burn their monthly bandwidth allotment and go into expensive 'overtime' at those line rates?
<1> I got "***igned" a complete /24 by the VPN, I split that into two /25 ranges and used netmasks. I seem to remember outside hosts managing to talk to both sides.
<0> lapducky: yeah, ive been trying to find if they have a limit
<2> Viking667, you shouldn't do that.
<1> 's seems funny that it's only when I want to download a Windows program that I have all the broken connections.
<2> Not if you're using a Cl*** 'C' net to begin with.
<0> right now my servers are pulling about 6GB a month each way
<1> lapducky: then how ELSE am I going to split the connection across two network cards?
<2> use a smaller subnet
<1> lapducky: it's not a true Cl*** C, though splitting it into say, a pair of /30 might work, until I added hosts anywhere.
<2> 192.168.0.0:255.255.255.128 is technically illegal
<7> howdy
<1> lapducky: you weren't listening to me. I said it's not a true Cl*** C.
<2> The problem is the lame way that IPv4... errr we should take this private for security reasons
<1> For starters, it's in the 10.0.0.0/16 range
<1> err, make that 10.64.x.x
<2> then that subnet is fine -- just don't start at the begginning of any IANA private range.
<1> Windows/Linux seem to think my netmask ought to be 255.0.0.0 for ip range of 10.x.x.x
<2> On Cisco RR there is a simple switch to allow use of the network address to address the first logical subnet in a range.
<5> oh well i'll try this strange gateway addy
<5> the dhcp server is on another subnet too
<0> im actually not sure i will have a limit
<0> its a business account
<5> oneandone give 0 details about their configuration
<2> Viking667, and Windows would be correct, but did you read my suggestion about privacy just now?
<1> oh. Darn. That's right - I have to go track down... oh. That's right. I've got unrar about on the Linux partition, I'll use that one.
<1> lapducky: yup.
<1> But as I won't be here a lot longer, I'm not worried.
<1> 74% and 32 tries...
<1> blimming host.
<1> What's the BEST voodoo2 driver for XP? Anyone know off the top of their head?
<2> Wanna try setting a TAPI again -- this is a fresh bloatware Linux install on new hardware?
<5> umm Viking667 there's an italian site with loads of info on
<5> they've modified the drivers
<1> FastVoodo? I think I was using their 98 driver.
<5> not sure the domain but it's 2k and xp
<5> various glide setups too
<2> '...setting (up/connecting through) a TAPI (gateway)..'
<1> gileswww: Yep. I know of it. As I said, I'd been using their drivers for 98 before a vicious sickness befell me.
<2> Viking667, in general, do you understand why the first subnet inside a discrete network is supposed to be nonadressable?
<1> I don't actually know, because the network address is addressable...
<2> Simply put -- the n-2 rule is the problem. There is supposed to be a network address and broadcast address at the top and bottom of every range (because of completely elemental Boolean logic gates that were chosen for speed back when NVRAM was incredibly expensive)
<5> i've got problems compiling a kernel on a via epia box
<5> the kernel starts booting but at the second line bzimage .... it cold reboots
<5> works fine with the binary kernel
<5> i've not enabled any acpi in the kernel
<5> and no initrrd
<2> Well, if you have, let's say: 172.16.0.0 as a network address, and 172.16.255.255 as a broadcast address, then use two bits of subnetting (i.e. ....224.0), you would have chopped the network into...
<2> Heh, he ran away before my great first term, first month CCNA lecture ran down...
<2> Wait, you must listen to my sophomoric blather!
<2> (not to mention that 224 is 3 bit and 192 is 2-bit)
<8> hi there, can u guys help me with this question?: what others "interrupt" orders can i send to linux? not counting ctrl+c, ctrl+z, ctrl+alt+del?
<2> rjramos, Ctl-Bkspc
<2> Don't try it if you're working on stuff though -- it abruptly kills/restarts the x-server
<2> rjramos, are you doing homework? (as bored as I am, I'm sure as heck not going to list all the console shell and x-shell escapes that I'm aware of)
<2> =oD
<9> man signal, duh
<2> Ctl-F1 should always be safe
<8> lol no
<8> i just wanted to know all the keys you can use to stop a program..
<8> can u send sigkill via keyboard?
<2> T`aZ, I wonder if his ***ignment is asking about POSIX signals, or is more practically focused.
<8> (or can u "kill" a program without the use of signals?)
<2> rjramos, you mentioned three signals -- why don't you take T`aZ suggestion and look up what they mean?
<2> =)
<9> now the interesting part, why when i hit ctrl-c , a signal is sent :p
<8> i know signals, i just would like to know if u can send sigkill via keyboard.. and also traps..
<9> rjramos: if you can answer my question you'll be able to answer yours, i think :)
<9> but i dont know the answer (yet) lol :p
<2> rjramos, up till now I've ***umed you're telling the truth, but now I smell BS. No offense. You are either confused or lying. Your last statement was a contradiction.
<8> oops im sorry its my irc client, im getting lots of messages lol
<8> yeah i know ctrlc sends a signal, like ctrlz..
<2> So when is the homework due -- heh? What are you taking -- Linux+ ?
<8> u get int and stp but i was wondering about sigkill
<2> ;-))
<2> Ctl-C
<2> stop is Ctl-Z -- now go RTF*M -- heh
<9> fat ?
<2> (*F implies 'funky', not anything *else* of course)
<2> ;-))
<8> grrr.. lets say i told handler to ignore Z and C
<8> now, how do u send sigkill to abort that program?
<8> with only keyboard?
<2> rjramos, which parts of the acronymn RTFM do you not understand -- hehehe.
<2> ??
<2> We'll still talk to you later when you come back with more convoluted questions, in an attempt to sort out all the new strange terms you will then need verbalize to understand.
<8> ok lets say u cant kill a program with ctrl+c or z, and u cant call the "kill" command (in other terminal).. how would u kill it?
<9> write a .c with kill() :p
<8> without that too
<8> :P
<2> Now get at it, soldier. About-face! Quick march! HUP, 2, 3 4, HUP 2, 3, 4...
<9> then, you must understand why a signal is send when ctrl-c is hit
<8> without hup too
<8> u have all signals ignored, except for sigkill /which u cant ignore)
<2> T`aZ, mi amigo, you're getting ****ed in... at least wait for him to pretend to skim man(1) for ten minutes...
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