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<0> Oh well, when you come back.. -- > 20:37:04 up 10:14, 16 users, load average: 150.40, 150.23, 143.39 <1> mine is: <1> 20:43:48 up 1:50, 2 users, load average: 0.23, 0.14, 0.18 <1> but, I don't know exactly what it means <2> :) the reason for my line is that, sometime in january this year, a friend of mine was very pleased that his freebsd box could run at load 3.0 <2> and didn't crash <2> imagine that <3> 18:47:49 up 19 days, 5:36, 6 users, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.15 <2> (during a buildworld) <1> what is 1:50 is mine ? <1> I mean <3> the uptime ;) <1> what is 1:50 in mine ? <3> it's up for 1 hour and 50 minutes <4> damn TKIP <3> sinds you booted it ;)
<3> since evin <1> and what is 0.23, 0.14, 0.18 ? <3> the load <3> eg cpu / ram usage <5> hello <5> anyone here able to offer some ***istance to a windows user looking to try out linux? <4> .. we can try .. <1> this is my second day of linux, I'm running it on vmware. I think when I get confortable with it, I am going to replace win2k <4> go go kirt ! <2> hmm.. I actually like w2k <2> if it weren't for the high RAM usage I'd still be using cygwin <5> i have never tried linux but fancy giving it a bash, but i am so confused with all the different versions and names. what should i do? is there a recommended version for a beginner? <2> oh yeah, and virii <2> and spyware <2> and not being able to browse pron sites <1> Reco1977, do what I did, its the easier way and the fastest way to set it up in a few second. Download vmware from www.vmware.com, the download the ubuntu pre-built VM (I used browser appliance), then mount it on vmware and your linux is up and running in a few seconds <4> Reco1977, I started with redhat ( curently using fedora ) <4> still stiking to it .. <4> I like mandriva too .. <5> kirt: do i need the linux software or does the vmware stuff cover it all? <1> Reco1977, you need vmware, and then you need to download the VM for ubuntu <4> kirt, whot !? <4> LOL ! <4> vmware is just emulating .. <4> just to wonder around .. <1> its dead easy, I got it running in a few seconds <5> at the www.vmware.com site, where is the download? <1> vmware is not an emulator, the vm is real <1> its like running the real OS <4> NO .. it's not real <4> it emulates ! <4> take a look at the eth .. <4> sound and stuff ( monitor even ) <1> you give it as much ram/cpu as you want, and the guest os is isolated from the host <4> don't tell me about vmware .. I use it too <4> ( I'm using it in linux ) <6> it emulates some hardware because it doesn't want to give direct acces to that, but the apps in it run directly on you cpu <5> guys? what do i download from vmware? <4> BOO coekie ! <6> "whaa!" ? :p <1> Reco1977, I suggest getting the workstation trial, its fully functional for 60 days, then download the ubuntu appliance, thats easy to use for beginners <6> WHAAA BlackBishop ! (?) <4> nothing :D <1> Reco1977, you will have linux running in a few seconds :) <5> ok, i cannot find the workbench thing, any links? <1> Reco1977, www.vmware.com <4> nothing .. just sayin' "BOO !" <4> you should of got scared and jump on your seat or somethin' <2> BlackBishop: try "I have your root p***word" <4> armones, ? <4> oooowwwww <4> yeah .. that should work <4> coekie, .. I HAVE YOUR ROOT P***WORD ! :D bwahahahha <5> downloading now <7> hi, someone can help with system users and mysql please? <1> Reco1977, its takes a while getting used to, but after you tried it, you will like it more than windows :) <8> turcko, what's your pb <5> i am confused though.... does this vmware also come with a linux install? how can i use linux thought it if i dont have a linux installation disk <4> =))
<1> Reco1977, read the website <4> you have to get some iso's <5> thought so <5> sorry not one for reading instructions, lol <1> in linux, you need to do alot of reading, hehe <1> but, its very fun <1> :) <1> I love it <9> Reco1977: you do NOT need vmware to run linux <9> kirt: i would not be telling newbies to put it on vmware...it only complicates things <10> I disagree, but ok. <10> VMWare is a good starting point. <9> danq: no it isn't <10> Oh, ok. My bad. <11> cygwin can be another starting point <1> sabre, its less complicated than using a seperate partition or devoting a whole machine to it <10> cygwin is alright, too, sure. I use cygwin to run an X server in the background. <12> vmware owns. <10> I can then export the display to my box here. <9> it's not easier than devoting a whole machine to it <10> If you don't have a whole machine to devote to it, yes, it's a great idea. <9> so is knoppix <10> Or not, but ok. <11> sabre: I would be inclined to say that depends on how familiar a person is with vmware. if they have decent vmware experience, it seems like a reasonble option, but probably not otherwise. <9> Fiver: and that's what i was saying thankx <1> vmware is dead easy to use <9> no sense in throwing another curve to a newb <11> yeah, might as well start them on xen :) <1> I wish people who make knoppix would make VMs instead of LiveCDs, its more positive <5> sabre: i am installing vmware now, would you recommend i stop? <9> as you were soldier <9> i am outvoted <11> I think livecds are a good thing <9> Reco1977: i just don't want you thinking you NEED it aight? <11> even for linux users with some experience. it allows you to get a peek at a (new) distro without requiring you to install or change anything on your current system <5> ok i need some iso's where can i download them from? looking for pure and totall noob linux gui/os/interface (whatever its called) to start on <9> i totally love knoppix for exposing linux to newbs <1> Reco1977, I suggets you use this --> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/browserapp.html <1> thats what I used <9> Reco1977: i would start here :) http://www.knoppix.net/get.php <1> suggets = suggest <1> everything is pre-configured <1> as soon as I get confortable with ubuntu, I am getting rid of win2k <1> Reco1977, how much ram do you have ? <1> I have 2 GB <5> 4gb <1> vmware will run like speed lightning for you :) <5> will i have a problem with sata hdd's? <1> not at all <5> i dont have a fdd, will that matter? <1> the VM is isolated from the host <1> nope <5> hmm got an err, one sec <5> it says no os found. do i need to d/load the iso's? <1> I suggest you download from http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/browserapp.html <4> lewl .. that's a new quit message .. ( Write error: Permission denied) <11> Reco1977: in all honesty, if you're not one for reading instructions/docs, linux may not be for you <11> unless you're willing to change ;b <1> hehe <10> heh <5> i am willing, just tired atm been working alllll day <11> ah, well that's excusable. just for today, though. ;) <13> how can i see last ssh login on a linux box without login ? <11> what? you can't see anything like that in linux without being logged in <13> last login user <13> Last login: Wed Apr 12 18:15:11 2006 from .................. <11> on a linux box without login <-- I don't understand what you mean by this <13> this <13> or /var/log/wtmp <13> last user logged in <14> last <11> lastlog <13> i want to see him without loging in <11> you can't
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