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<0> so I won't just be carrying around dead weight on my forks now.
<1> I'm bored.
<0> plus bike geometry will be better.
<1> I need to think of some stupid idea and have Yahoo buy it, too.
<0> internet AA cell delivery/
<0> might fly with the female population.
<1> eh?
<0> nm
<0> let's just say that AA cells get used in certain portable electronics.
<1> I understand what you're saying, but I don't.
<1> Why not just go to Wallgreens
<1> They even sell a "personal m***ager"
<0> yeah, it's a crappy idea.
<0> but gotta start somewhere.
<0> yeah, I've seen those marketed as .. something else :P
<1> My GF does Fascinations parties.
<0> ok.
<0> what's that mean?
<1> Well
<1> You know what a tupperware party is, right
<0> sort of yes, sort of no.
<0> bring your tupperware -- check. but bring food in tupperware?
<1> OK, well, think tupperware parties, but there's no tupperware.
<1> No, no food.
<0> heh
<0> ok, so basically stand around and shoot the "breeze"?
<2> Hi everyone.
<2> Evening, Brou
<2> err, bronaugh
<0> hey Viking667
<0> I'm just ranting about getting shocks on my bike working.
<2> oh.
<0> which is pretty awesome.
<2> cool.
<0> yeah.
<0> managed to actually fix them by the looks of it.
<0> so big savings there.
<0> found out way too much about shocks. yay.
<0> fun.
<0> 80mm?
<2> So I'll have to go back to the store when I've got the right amount of money, to buy one that actually FITS. I bought a 80mm, only to realise by the time I got it home I was supposed to have got a 90mm.
<0> why not just exchange it?
<1> Well, not really.
<0> or better yet, get the old fan working and return that one?
<1> Ok, to be brutally blunt, it's like a tupperware party with dildos.
<0> ahh.
<3> O..o
<0> why does this not even faze me?
<1> does it phase you, either?
<0> dict faze, bitch :P
<2> I decided I neede a case fan anyhow, so I put it at the bottom of the case blowing air up to the power supply. I snatched a 75mm fan from an old XT power supply and wedged it into place inside the PSU until I get a proper fan. ALl I have to remember is NOT to touch the exposed heatsink, as it's 125 VAC above ground. blech.
<1> hah
<4> hihi
<0> Viking667: so no chance of repairing fan?
<1> hi
<2> I've already got stung once... that's two too many times for my health.
<0> Viking667: was that re repairing fan?
<0> it's pretty easy you know. just add motor oil pretty much.
<2> naah. When I stripped off the lockwasher and pulled the fan off, it's a sleeve bearing, so when I put it back together, it vibrates like anything. It's pretty much a goner.
<0> have you tried putting oil in it?
<0> the heavier the better. slows down the fan, but who gives a damn if it's quiet and still moves air.
<2> I thought of that, but I'd be better off spending the money on a fan with ball bearing instead. I've got no oil.
<0> no motor oil?
<0> no vegetable oil?
<0> no gear oil?
<0> (that's my favourite0
<2> Unfortunately, I need THAT fan to move air, as it gets too hot without it.
<2> Well, I've got vegetable oil, but no idea whether that degrades with heat or time.
<0> who gives a damn. how long do you need it for?
<2> Hell, I've got olive oil here if I were that nuts.
<2> heh.
<0> throw it in, see if it works.
<0> that's become my policy.
<0> I used safflower oil recently as thermal compound.
<0> worked fine.
<2> lol! Haven't heard of THAT one.
<0> yup. used it on an A64 3000+
<2> I generally stick to thin coat of thermal paste, though I wish I had a heatsink that took up more of the K6-II heatspreader's surface.
<0> I didn't have any thermal paste this time.
<2> at the current moment, the heatsink only takes up about 40% - 50%
<0> so I improvised. I believe the CPU tops out at something under 50C.
<0> and the cooler's pretty pathetic.
<0> so I figure that's doing well.
<2> I cringe every time I see the size of the exposed surface for a Celeron Coppermine - about 7mm by 5mm
<0> yup.
<0> but they're all like that inside the heat spreader.
<0> and what do they use inside -that-?
<2> Well, my K6-II runs upwards of 65
<0> ouch.
<0> grab an old Athlon cooler.
<0> something someone is throwing out.
<0> they work great.
<2> by the time it hits 68, I can generally count on rebooting the machine unless I get the temperature down, quick.
<2> lol.
<0> I did that with my parents' machine.
<2> THey do? THought those were for ... Athlons and didn'ht FIT Socket 7?
<0> they're for Socket A right?
<0> well, socket A mounting bits are same as Socket 321 or whatever.
<0> so long as it clips onto the socket you're good.
<2> Not sure. I've got Socket 7 for the K6-II, and the Celeron is a 370
<0> yeah, socket 7.
<0> I think 370's the same mounting bits on the socket too.
<0> but not totally sure there.
<2> Because I really REALLY want a munty heatsink, with a munty amount of area. I wanted to buy one of those copper kits, but I wasn't sure if that was going overboard.
<0> it's a K6-II
<0> they dissipate something like 20W
<0> (ok, between about 13W and 25W)
<0> modern CPUs dissipate up to 120W
<2> at 533MHz, at that.
<0> you don't need a fancy thermal solution... just a well thought out one.
<2> wow.
<2> So, will this copper heatsink solution even WORK better than what I've got now?
<0> those little old heatsinks ****ed.
<2> Hell, I'd even thought of liquid cooling but don't have the ability to make it.
<0> they were poorly thought out and generally didn't work worth a damn.
<2> This heatsink is AL
<2> mmmm.
<1> I was working with a pair of 3.2 Xeons a few months ago
<0> aluminum's fine.
<1> On a dual motherboard
<0> danq: nice. didn't need heating did you?
<1> Naturally, in a 2U, CPU fans are hard to come by for those.
<0> yeah.
<2> Well, it's metal. I'm fairly sure it's aluminium.
<1> The ones I had, had too much clearance b/t the die and the base of the fan
<1> I mean, if there's no contact, there's no good heat dissipation.
<1> So I told this to my boss.
<2> oh.
<1> He's all "Take the fins off of the old copper fans, bend them, and stack them, to get rid of the clearance."
<0> danq: woah. that's a WTF.
<1> Yeah.
<1> I argued with him about it for almost an hour
<2> WTH?
<1> then I finally gave up and just did it to show him what happens
<0> when I say it's a WTF, it's probably a WTF :P
<2> That's a BOFH UF cartoon for sure.
<1> The machine almost made it past POST
<0> lol
<1> I was impressed.
<0> and then crashed eh.
<0> good.
<1> Yeap.
<1> I remmeber a few years back when the AMD XPs came out
<1> I smelt something burning in the datacenter
<0> oh. ugh.
<1> i find the box, rip it off the rack, take the cover off
<1> I'm all "wtf is the cpu"
<1> i hear **** rattle underneath the mobo
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