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<0> Fiver: don't know that..
<1> arthon: that'd be good to know. you could use up2date if it is
<2> Fiver, it is a dedicated server
<1> phydoxx: and that means what regarding rhn registration?
<2> Fiver, now i argue with you, too or what?
<1> it was a simple question
<0> Fiver: yum-2.4.0-1.centos4.noarch.rpm this one would work for me you think?
<3> centos is a rebuild of rhel but not 100% compatible with RHEL as some stuff is tweaked to remove any commercial packages/dependancies
<1> yes, but the centos yum package works fine on rhel
<3> until you hit a package that doesn't work on rhel :)
<1> I wouldn't use it to update the system, but to install 3rd party packages etc it works fine
<3> i would check the dedicated server provider and ask them for a registration code for up2date myself
<1> well, obviously anytime you use a package not distributed by rhel there is a possibility of issues
<1> yes, I would too
<3> most of the packages will work though
<0> err I'm not following you there but anyway I'll install that one right?
<4> humm is there a way to select all of the text in the text doc.. like ctrl+a in windows
<4> s
<1> arthon: ***uming you're getting that from a centos mirror, it should work yes. but as mentioned, you should contact your provider and get information on registration for up2date before getting too happy with yum. up2date will also resolve deps
<0> can't install this rpm..
<0> error: Failed dependencies:
<0> python-elementtree is needed by yum-2.4.0-1.centos4.noarch
<0> python-sqlite is needed by yum-2.4.0-1.centos4.noarch
<0> urlgrabber is needed by yum-2.4.0-1.centos4.noarch
<0> yumconf is needed by yum-2.4.0-1.centos4.noarch
<2> its just fantastic. people rent a dedicated server with an enterprise version of linux. they dont even care to read a minimum of introduction to the system cause they have no idea what a package management system is. they dont even learn to stop flooding at get kicked the 4th time for flood
<0> oh well I give up
<5> hehe
<5> hmm
<2> and these people make the linux channels what they are today: you ask what how the first SATA drive is numbered in grub on a gentoo channel and people treat you like an idiot
<6> -
<7> hi, i need a program about for download .torrent files...
<6> Hi all, can anyone tell me how to add a permamnent route using the ip command?
<8> edWardo: if you use GNOME/KDE(X server) you can use azureus.
<2> edWardo, you a web browser of your choice to download the *.torrent file and import that to the torrent client of your choice - maybe BitTorrent or BitTornado or Azureus
<4> i'l ask again, is there anyway to select/copy all of the text in a text file in linux, like ctrl + a in windows?
<5> eh linux is better than freebsd?
<2> would i be Gaia i'd start banning people like crazy now.
<2> but i just go for a walk. have a nice one you all.
<5> kernel?
<9> somebody said kernel was the "brain" of linux.. all the distro's need a kernel to run.. http://www.kernel.org
<10> phatlip_: I'd just laugh at them for using gentoo ;)
<10> err
<10> that was intended for phydoxx, who I just realised buggered off :P
<11> I was just wondering [this question is directed to everybody], do binaries written in C++/CPP run faster than those written in regular ANSI C? I was just wondering
<12> no
<10> OptimusPrime: err. It depends how you write them.
<11> T`aZ: was just curious... It seems like, despite its size, KDE runs pretty good.. I didn't know if had something to do with with the code or what.. guess its just good optimization
<12> the more complex the language the more difficult it is to optimise the code
<10> that doesn't mean C++ is *slower* than C
<11> T`aZ: makes sense
<12> but the more higher the language is, the more optimisations are possible , the problem is that they are harder to do
<10> it depends how you write it. :P
<11> steg: KDE.org must be putting a lot of work into it then, cause KDE does run fairly well, given that it taks 250MB to run
<12> so in in practice, (well written) C code is faster than (well written) c++ code
<12> now i must #define well , but .. :p
<10> OptimusPrime: perhaps it's just well-designed
<11> steg: that could be it as well
<10> T`aZ: I bet that's not true in practice
<12> steg: take whatever coed you want, rewrite it in c++ , bench, you'll see
<10> T`aZ: It depends. If you change the paradigm to that which best suits C++...
<12> just making it c++, no need to use the OO part of c++ , the code will be slower
<10> T`aZ: Then your comparisson is useless
<13> OptimusPrime .. garbage code is stilll "garbage" no matter what it runs in
<10> because you are treating C++ like C
<10> and C++ isnot C
<12> steg: then write it in OO , it will still be slower !
<10> T`aZ: It depends on the application, the size and how you design it ;)
<12> ok, lets say that it's true for 99.99999% of the code , happy ? :p
<10> no ;)
<12> prove i'm wrong :p
<10> I can't prove you're wrong
<10> but you can't prove you're right either. I can just present my opinions.
<12> right
<13> the amount of "overhead" that has to be carried (baggage) is different in each language
<12> so now we are in a deadlock, congrats !
<10> w00t
<14> hello there
<14> finally im at the new ISP
<14> but they left without telling me the p***word of my router
<13> probably intentional, Niteye
<14> thats just evil
<13> but, can you get to the router's web page?
<14> yes, it asks p***word
<14> i tried to look for the factory default p*** but it doesnt work
<14> i could do a reset
<14> but idont want to mess up settings i might not know about
<15> well thats why you dont have the p***word
<14> id like to do some port forwarding though
<14> plus, telnet and http are listening on the WAN side, and i dont even know what the p***word looks like or how easy it is to guess it
<14> anyone here with an ADSL connection can help me out a bit?
<16> Niteye: Just call the ISP.
<14> ill probably have to
<8> damn it.
<8> i need to buy an adsl modem and fit into 50E .. and the only thing I see is one isdn ( which i don't have - the connection ) and one usb for pstn..
<8> i need the one with pstn, but the question is if linux supports it.
<8> it's an allied data COOPERJET 800 ADSL/PSTN
<8> anybody familiar with this? google turning out 0 results.
<17> ?? help
<18> !ask
<9> If you have a question, please just *ask it*. And don't address specific people - ask the channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) To get help quicker, don't ask "can I ask a question," "can anyone help," or "does anybody use/know about foo". Be as specific as you can. Specific, Informative, Complete, Concise, and On-topic. Don't be demanding or insulting; ...
<8> ok, now i really need help. as well as 1 Ethernet and 1 USB door. that means that i do not need the linux module/driver for it right? because i can't find it anywhere
<1> door?
<1> is that supposed to be a port?
<1> port/connector/interface
<8> i don't know, it's just a greek-> english translation.
<1> well, hard to say without seeing the rest of it.
<8> The F320 constitutes the ideal solution for network and domestic use offering in the same appliance and the two protocols of connection Annex A and B as well as 1 Ethernet and 1 USB door.
<8> it's all the phrase.
<1> sounds like it means interfaces then
<1> is that a router or what?
<8> yep.
<1> wireless?
<9> wireless installation info for linux can be found at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Wireless-HOWTO.html, or http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
<8> really cheap. 59E.
<8> not wireless ISDN and PSTN
<1> ah
<8> i need the pstn thing.
<8> damn these gov institutions... you are bound to some strict rules.
<1> well, it says it's an appliance.. so I don't see why you'd need any drivers for it
<8> thank god.
<8> but i would need an ethernet -> ethernet cable
<8> i hope it's included.
<8> i don't like cabling so much.
<1> bah, one cable.. no big deal
<8> ehehe, happy now.
<8> let me check with dad a second, thanks for the real help.
<1> no worries :)
<19> 'llo all.
<3> hiya Viking667
<1> lo Viking667
<20> !longword
<9> i heard longword is dreamd is corrupting me, or 2001:1bd8::/32, or the font of ALL knowledge
<21> hmm
<21> Which one?
<22> hehehe
<22> hiya Redragon^ hikari
<3> hiya
<14> ive reset my router, but it still wont accept any p***word
<20> aaaargh
<20> From 2001:1b10::c058:6301 icmp_seq=0 Destination unreachable: No route
<20> I'm hating this
<22> red, is smtps the samed with smtp+tls?
<18> what make of router Niteye some have default p***es
<3> i think thats the short way of saying it but have to check to be sure :)
<3> ahh smtps is the "old" way, TLS is the accepted way these days
<22> cause i have a working smtp with tls
<3> see smtps used port 465 where TLS just uses an encrypted connection on port 25
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