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<0> !fvisibility
<1> if you can help me install manually i'll do it without konstruct :)
<1> but I'm not that experienced thats why I'm using an automated install
<0> arthon: its not that hard... just a sec
<0> arthon: you just have to install a few packages in order, then the rest don't matter
<1> okat
<1> okay
<1> I guess I already have all packages dl ed
<1> which one should I install first?
<0> arthon: what system are you running?
<0> arthon: run uname -a
<0> and paste , it shouldn't be more than one line
<1> Linux cpanel.ev1servers.net 2.6.9-22.ELsmp #1 SMP Mon Sep 19 18:32:14 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
<2> why are you installing KDE on a server?
<1> cause I am not familiar with a black screen :)
<2> arthon: well, it's a total waste of diskspace, memory and CPU cycles
<0> arthon: here you go, http://pastebin.com/546316
<2> arthon: And it's not difficult to grasp the basics of running a server machine... probably easier than attempting to compile KDE ;)
<0> arthon: don't include the line numbers...
<2> arthon: incidentally, if you're running redhat, aren't there packages for KDE? I bet there are.
<2> arthon: Packages stop you having to worry about stuff like this
<0> arthon: this should get you through the entire build without any issues....
<3> blah
<1> thanks OptimusPrime
<2> arthon: also, there are lots of environments for X (if you insist on running X windows) that are far lighter than KDE
<1> I'm looking into that
<0> arthon: install arts-1.x.x first... then I believe the next is kdelib-3.4.3
<1> steg what do you mean with packages?
<2> arthon: Well, what version of redhat is on the system?
<4> icewm!
<1> ref hat 4 enterprise
<1> red*
<4> call support, then?
<1> well they are installing it with $
<2> arthon: Ok. Well, you are familiar with packages and how redhat handles them?
<1> you mean with rpm's?
<2> arthon: Yes. There are high-level tools to manage them, though
<0> arthon: here are the instructions... if you don't have qt installed you will have to install it with their specific options.. other than that, the little script I gave you will work on everything else... http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_kde3_4.html
<2> arthon: So you can easily install a package and all its dependencies, for isntance
<2> arthon: or easily upgrade
<1> which high level tool for example?
<1> okey OptimusPrime I'll look into that too thanks
<2> arthon: I am not certain which redhat uses :)
<2> arthon: give me a second I will find out
<1> OptimusPrime: -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
<1> where should I run this?
<3> ok, i give... ssh'ed into my laptop from work, and all my aliases are not loading
<0> arthon: did you decompress arts and then copy the runme.sh script into the directory, then run it? if not, yoou will get that error
<1> arts package?
<0> arts-1.4.3.tar.bz2
<0> arthon: to decompress run the following: tar jxf arts-1.4.3.tar.bz2
<0> arthon: you should see a directory named arts-1.4.3
<0> arthon: just copy the runme.sh into that directory, then run it... it will build everything for you, and it will be faster than the binaries they have for download
<1> I got this: /arts-1.5.1.tar.bz2
<1> the version higher soes it matter?
<1> does*
<0> arthon: oh my bad, you're installing KDE-3.5
<0> arthon: its decompressed and installed the same way, just change the version number to match...but first, did you install qt?
<1> well how can I check if its installed?
<0> arthon: type : which qtconfig
<0> arthon: if it returns an error, nope... its not installed
<1> it returned nothing
<0> arthon: then you have to install qt first
<1> okay
<0> arthon: check out the install link that i gave ya:http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_kde3_4.html
<0> arthon: those are the latest instructions
<1> okay I'll install that first
<0> a script that you can use for qt is a little different: http://pastebin.com/546320
<0> arthon: oh, on that qt script, change the versioning to match the version that you have there... I think its qt-4.0...almost forgot
<0> http://pastebin.com/546320
<2> arthon: I have been advise yum and apt are two options
<2> arthon: however, packages.
<2> arthon: packages, packages, packages, packages, packages
<2> I hope I make my point ;)
<1> steg I tried to install yum before
<1> but it didn't work..
<2> arthon: I see.
<1> OptimusPrime I'm dl ing qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.0.tar.gz
<1> is this the right one?
<2> arthon: Seriously, you are making an error here.
<2> arthon: You do not want X and KDE compiled from source.
<0> arthon: sounds good
<2> arthon: You want the packages.
<2> arthon: In fact, you really want neither, but if you really insist, use packages.
<1> okay steg but how can I get the packages?
<0> arthon: steg might have apoint, you might be getting in over your head... the scripts will help out but it might not be enough for ya
<2> it's not a case of getting in over your head, it's a case of good system administration
<2> and also a case of getting in over your head
<2> ;)
<1> lol
<1> wait a sec then
<1> I'll paste the error yum gave
<2> arthon: Feh, I'm going to guess from redhat's site
<0> arthon: once you're finished, this is what you have to look forward to... a VERY complete desktop solution: http://southkc.net/tmp/kde-3.4.3
<2> arthon: how did you try and install it?
<1> err how could I run yum?
<0> arthon: if you want a thin client [almost] : http://southkc.net/tmp/xfce-4.2
<1> steg: you mean yum?
<2> yes
<1> i found an installation guide
<1> downloaded it and installed it
<1> "yum install" doesn't work.. I think I have to install yum again
<2> christ, redhat is a confusing mess
<5> "not work" as in, blows up, stabs you in the face, touches you in inappropriate places, what?
<1> -bash: yum: command not found
<5> how did you install it?
<5> and on which distro
<1> red hat 4 enterprise
<5> how did you install it?
<1> i've founded a manual and did what it says
<1> but am not able to find it again
<1> it was yum-2.0.3
<5> What does this give you... rpm -qa|grep yum
<1> nothing
<1> guess I need to install the rpm again
<2> arthon: ok, I don't think redhat release enterprise packages in a way that can be used with yum
<2> and frankly, on a server, i would use official redhat packages
<1> so what do you suggest?
<2> arthon: There is a service called redhat network that seems to be mentioned
<2> however, really, you've bought the thing, I'd ask tech support. ;)
<1> okay then
<6> of course redhat service would do.
<1> I will do that...
<6> but then, you need to be registered with it
<7> hi I like to know if it's possible to print flash movies in firefox
<2> most printers lack the ability to print interactive paper
<8> :)
<2> safasdfasd: but I know whta you mean, and i've no idea
<2> just thought I'd take the oportunity for a mediocre joke
<7> ;)
<7> ao nobody knows?
<9> print a movie, eh?
<7> no
<7> it's not even moving...
<9> i don't see why not
<9> verified
<10> hi all
<10> i've got a probleme
<5> is that like a "problem"?
<10> how can i drop access for yahoo mess using iptables
<10> i already droped access for 5050 and udp 1080
<10> and is still connect
<10> yes
<10> is problem
<10> sry
<10> anyone?? what ports i have to block ?
<11> you cant, because yahoo messenger use random ports
<10> tnx
<12> ERROR: You need the openssl PHP extension to use SMTP/IMAP TLS how can I fix it ? i start /usr/sbin/apachectl startssl and it don`t fix it
<1> I got a problem with yum it gives this error:
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