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<0> bronaugh: i always wondered why my father had lots of harry potter books at home.
<1> synaptic i stated my problem above.. can u help?
<0> DJ_devil-: no way. i don't deal wireless, makes me feel horny.
<2> true
<0> damn, i just said it.
<0> this channel is worst than a confession room.
<1> does anyone on this channel can ?
<0> DJ_devil-: well if somebody could, he would've responded by now.
<3> huh
<0> wait maybe you will get a response.
<3> I can't seem to find a license for VMWare Server.
<3> I was supposed to get an eval license.
<0> danq: isn't there a free version anyways?
<3> still need a license
<0> oh.
<0> bbl.



<1> ok, tnks synaptic
<3> I'm doing x forwarding from my machine across the room, to my desktop
<3> So I'm running VMWare on my desktop.
<3> Where's my fscking license :(
<4> danq: register for the download and you get one by email
<4> danq: It'll still expire because it's a beta, but the product will remain free
<5> I have slackware 10.1,I want to install wine, in their website it says there is a .tgz for slackware 10.2... will it work fo rme?
<3> Yeah, I figured that would happen - however, I get no email.
<3> gah
<3> looks like vmware didn't like that email address.
<2> use a google mail address so you can archive all the spam that you will get from vmware headquarters
<3> or use my own
<3> heh
<6> hey. Im getting a "No rule to make target '/include/linux/autoconf.h when "make modules"
<6> i can't compile my usb mouse because its a module
<6> i would like to compile it by hand...any sugggestions??
<6> im getting all sort of errors
<6> like wrong include files
<5> who uses slackware here?
<0> sillymatz: LadyByte
<7> guys are you up to some mind buggling mathematical problem? i am making a program
<7> well here goes nothing hehe, the given is 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 = 255 what if i remove 2 and 8 how can you make a program know what had been removed?
<4> netbeui: bitwise operators
<4> netbeui: Or just check which bits are 0
<7> PolarWolf: broader pls
<4> netbeui: I don't think this is #homework
<7> its not a homework i am working with a 8255 interface card
<4> netbeui: Lets just say that *if* I were a programmer, *that* would be the direction I'd be looking in
<8> does openoffice have spell checker like microsoft office?
<4> TheLegend: No, it's at the functional level of notepad
<5> how do you use wine?
<4> sillymatz: Pour it in a gl*** and drink?
<4> Oh..this is #linuxhelp, not #linux :P
<5> what is a good editor that is like notepad.exe?
<4> sillymatz: gedit seems pretty, I prefer jedit myself
<4> Actually, I prefer vim
<2> PolarWolf, did tommi_ ask you to join here to bring the #linux climate over?
<6> so anyone can help on "make modules" working ?? im getting "No rule to make target 'include/linux/autoconf.h'".
<4> ValeFiona: No, I pointed some loser your way, and was checking if he actually arrived to ask the same question I answered already when I did point him over
<4> ValeFiona: And indeed he did
<3> vmware dumped core
<3> that's the first time I've ever seen that.
<0> danq: that's because your using vmware the first time?
<4> Actually, I should quote that episode
<0> well there is a pastebin
<0> by the way, what's the difference between #linux and #linuxhelp ?
<2> so bossing people on #linux around seems not to be enough for healing a cranky ego. well, well.
<2> synaptic, join there with a new nick and ask 1-2 newbie questions and you will see how many anti social bastards try to bite off your head
<3> uh, not really synaptic, no. I've been using VMWare for quite a while.
<3> I suspect my afro-engineered setup as the culprit.
<4> ValeFiona: Tsk, so bitter :)
<0> ValeFiona: let me try.
<4> ValeFiona: This is IRC, lighten up
<0> hahah
<9> lol
<9> it worked
<0> i didn't even change nicks.
<4> people take things so seriously
<3> vmware running on a linux machine with x forwarding via ssh to my Windows desktop.
<2> PolarWolf, i am a bitter about people who bring IRC down to some hostile place where people ask to ask questions after they been tortured
<2> PolarWolf, and if this is "just" IRC i wonder why clowns like you are proud on kick ban stats



<4> ValeFiona: Allow me to show you the stupidity in question.
<2> dont.
<4> Very well.
<0> ValeFiona: it really works.
<2> i was reading it too often when anti social bastards tried to justify their hostile actions against newbies
<4> I haven't kickbanned anyone in ages, though
<4> ValeFiona: Tsk, tsk. I pick and choose the idiots to abuse.
<2> believe me, what you guys make out of the linux community on your channel is absolutely not was people like Torvalds, T'so, Stallmann, Cox and many others aimed for
<4> ValeFiona: The viable ones, which don't waste evrybody's time with stupidity, get to stay.
<8> wow nice, I think I can get StarOffice for free.
<4> ValeFiona: Real questions get answered. People who show an effort get helped.
<4> ValeFiona: Ah, the magical linux community again.
<0> PolarWolf: really, those there are actually rude.
<4> ValeFiona: Out of curiousity, do you follow LKML?
<0> i'm still waiting for the kick-ban
<0> PolarWolf: what's about the linux kernel mailing list, why should you follow when you don't contribute?
<4> synaptic: Mind getting me up to speed on what you're talking about?
<2> PolarWolf, a mailing list for kernel internal debates differs in quality _a lot_ from chat rooms
<0> PolarWolf: the LKML thing you asked ValeFiona
<2> i asked?
<4> ValeFiona: Ahah. So mentioned kernel developers being rude on their prefered vehicle of communication all of a sudden doesn't count because...well, I don't see a particularly good reason
<2> PolarWolf, no. you compare apples with peas
<4> ValeFiona: Basically, you're making saints of ordinary people, who in general aren't very nice either
<4> ValeFiona: Ahah, I see
<0> PolarWolf: it's stupid to ask such a question. why should one who uses linux be interested in the mailing list. just because all the real devs are there? what need if you don't need that kind of knowledge?
<4> synaptic: Mind staying out of this? Thanks.
<2> no i just understand that you cant compare a mailing list with a chat room
<4> ValeFiona: You're the one dragging people who don't IRC, nor convey sweet love towards newbies, into things
<8> PolarWolf: Heh, instead of telling him to stay out of that, why don't go in private ;)
<2> PolarWolf, i do? where?
<4> ValeFiona: You have a buffer, try to use it
<2> PolarWolf, take that attitude to your #linux channel, it smells
<4> ValeFiona: I clearly saw some names flashing by in reference to what they meant when they developed linux
<4> ValeFiona: Tsk, so bitter again. What, don't like me trembling on the linux community of coziness and kumbaya?
<2> .
<0> what's kumbaya ?
<0> in fact, there are nice discussions there, lots of irony.
<4> synaptic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya
<0> in fact, ValeFiona is a great person.
<0> and probably PolarWolf too.
<4> I don't recall claiming otherwise. Myself, I'm a bastard.
<0> so why fight because of chat rooms.
<9> All I know is that when I got helped in #Linux I got help in a sarcastic way
<9> Here It was always friendly
<4> wamty: *shrug*
<9> they make you bow before give you an answer in #linux that is IF you're answered
<4> wamty: That's probably why these are different channels with different purposes
<0> the thing is, many people don't see it, but there are sarcastic persons here too.
<9> I'm being objective
<2> synaptic, i dont fight because _of_ a chat room. i fight for the positive climate on here
<9> yes, you said it.
<2> the moment #linuxhelp picks up the cold and hostile climate of many other linux channels i dont need to be here anymore
<4> A lot of people come into #linux expecting help with every little newbie fart they have
<0> !nickometer fiona
<10> 'fiona' is 0.000% lame, synaptic
<4> Granted, the name of the channel implies different, but #linux is nowhere near a help channel for dimwits, cluebies and outright idiots
<0> somebody called?
<9> wow
<3> When was #linux ever a help channel?
<3> heh
<4> danq: Never, #linux evolved from the old #linpeople channel(s)
<3> I wish someone would help me with my farts.
<3> I care not, PolarWolf. I just know that, well, #linux ****s.
<9> oh and polarwolf
<9> #linux was stolen from its original owner
<4> wamty: Which would be?
<9> for the record.
<0> PolarWolf: well maybe there's a difference between linuxhelp which implies help in all domains of linux and linux which is probably for advanced users that are sarcastic ones and probably contribute to the kernel code.
<4> danq: Your opinion :)
<9> lzh?
<4> wamty: Oh, he wanders by every now and then
<3> Fact. For the record.
<4> wamty: I'm sure if you ask him, he has a different story


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